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2022 Round 3 - Lancaster. Sunday 22nd May |
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Kim
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None of this is your fault. We've been incrementally refining our timing/scoring workflow for a while now, and - in the absence of a vast repository of interesting BHPC results in the appropriate format - it's inevitable that edge cases will need to be dealt with as they arise. That I'd misinterpreted what the old code was doing with DNFs was bound to come to light eventually. In the interests of clarity, I think I need to write some better documentation on how the scoring process is *supposed* to work, rather than instructions for driving the software. |
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legs_larry
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Poking around in the archives on TowersNet shews a pile of Excel spreadsheets containing the race results from 1999 to 2006. These are “interesting” in the same way as snooker's Steve “Interesting” Davis. There’s also a folder called “Access” but I clearly lost the will to live before getting very far with that.
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Kim
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Okay, I've done a bit more work on the merge-o-matic, and it now has a configurable option for what to do with DNFs. It can either:
- Keep them as DNFs and let SeriesMgr deal with them - Give them an arbitrary finish time in minutes - Give them their race's leader's finish time - Give them their race's last finisher's finish time - Give them the overall winner's finish time - Give them the overall last finisher's finish time Hopefully that covers all the likely options :) Does Chris's post above count as an official CompSec ruling on how we should be dealing with this going forward (ie. overall last finisher's time)? If so, I'll recalculate the season's points and stick some explanatory wording on the website. Edited by Kim - 26 May 2022 at 10:58pm |
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AlanGoodman
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Yep! I’d say go with that. Many thanks Kim! |
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ChrisH
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...and rather than a CompSec’s ruling we could call it a compsec’s interim solution, then we can always review and revise it at AGM if it turns out to be too flawed and/or unpopular by then......
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ChrisH
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...now we just need a few volunteers with bikes only capable of 30mins +0 laps to put it to the test.......
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Kim
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If we had enough of those, the race timing would be a lot less complicated :)
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Kim
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In this case 'appropriate format' was doing a fair bit of heavy lifting, which would be from whenever it was that I worked out how to incorporate the BHPC classes in the who's-in-the-race spreadsheet in a format that CrossMgr can understand (all that CustomCategory stuff you see in the results). Some point in the latter half of 2019, I think. Otherwise you'd have to write something to re-mangle the data, which would be somewhere on my to-do list a long way below "set up functional build environment for the CrossMgr source", "discover a 559 tubless rim that actually works" and "training".
Edited by Kim - 27 May 2022 at 1:11am |
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legs_larry
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Wot, no “learn Portugeuse”?
Standards are slipping… |
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Kim
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Okay, I've re-merged all the previous the results using the overall last finisher's time for DNFs and updated the points tables for the 2022 season.
Espero que isso não tenha quebrado nada de novo...
Edited by Kim - 27 May 2022 at 12:38pm |
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