AlanGoodman wrote:
Surely allowing teams to compete in a relay wouldn't increase the number of riders on the track at any one time??
Excluding teams would effectively mean no pedal car entries. I believe it would also prevent many other BHPC members from entering (judging by the way many of us struggled in the 2 hour race at Fowlmead this year...  )
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Allowing teams would increase the potential number of riders on the track at one time because it makes it more inclusive unless I exclude people by saying, "Sorry, we're full." Ideally I'd have an event for soloists without needing to turn riders away, which is my main intention. Teams are, at present, a side issue, unless it becomes obvious that a soloist event would be a matter of one or two individuals. It's just a way of preventing overcrowding without turning people down. But I don't want to cut my nose off to spite my own face, so if I only get one or two wanting a solo ride and 20 teams interested, then its a no brainer for me to do it as a team event. So feedback is very welcome.
You'll have to bear with me because I'm not even a member of BHPC (yet) and am new to this. If I'm going to run a BHPC event, then I need to get a feel for BHPC and see how it works, otherwise I'll just do what only I want and might not get anyone riding the event, so I need to learn about BHPC and what BHPC riders want before I set rules down in stone. I'm aiming to run a 24 hour TT for all, but have to keep a lid on it so that I don't bite off more than I can chew and we end up with a mess of an event. It IS a race and being held up by big bunches lots of times is going to annoy a lot of people as well as probably get very risky. The Bowl is a limited resource, so I need a way of limiting the number of riders.
I could always say first come, first served, whether team or soloist and have a reserve list incase of pull outs and no-shows. Would that be preferable?
Offering BHPC insurance cover to non-members while effectively excluding some of our members (who pay for the insurance) from the event would obviously be a non-starter.
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Not allowing teams is as exclusive to non BHPC members as it is to BHPC members. Everyone has to pay for their own insurance or am I wrong? Excluding riders when we don't have many of them certainly is a non starter. So again, it is looking to me as if soloists are the exception and they can ride as a one person team anyway, so perhaps a team event is the way to go and is looking to me to be the best option now, but I'll wait for more feedback first.
To me, BHPC is the format of the event I am hoping to run and I've chosen BHPC because it is the most inclusive. I don't care whether entries are from BHPC members or not, Obviously BHPC is the place for me to try and attract riders who otherwise wouldn't be able to ride a 24 hour TT because of their choice of machine, but I'll also be looking elsewhere. The idea is to run as an inclusive event as I can, primarily for individuals and within the limitations of what facilities I have. So I'm starting at the extreme end by only inviting soloists and seeing whether that can attract enough riders to run an event. There is obviously a demand for team events, but my intention is to primarily run an event for solos and secondly, run an event for teams. If I can only run an event for teams because of lack of interest in solo rides, then that's good too, but not my original aim. Perhaps someone else would like to run another event for teams in parallell on another weekend at MK Bowl? I have the contact details and you have until the end of November to set the date. As it is, I have no idea how popular or unpopular this will be so am assuming that most are wanting to ride a solo 24, which is what I was originally aiming to cater for, but if it doesn't get much interest, then it'll be primarily a team event.
Surely attracting non BHPC members to a BHPC event might possibly expand the membership of BHPC?
I agree with Fards regarding drafting... I also think it would be very difficult to police on a short circuit.
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It would probably be impossible not to draft for short periods at times and common sense would be needed. But blatant drafting for many laps would be pretty obvious to the observent and riders can report other riders for rule breaking, as is the case in CTT events.
Again, nothing cast in stone, so I'm glad to hear of opinions and get an idea of what the majority wants and how BHPC events are normally run. I aim to please the majority, not dictate.