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Topic: Event Organising 2007
Posted By: gNick
Subject: Event Organising 2007
Date Posted: 01 March 2007 at 4:13pm
Righty-ho chaps and superior beings, here is the list of events for 2007.
They all need to be organisated and the people to do such a thing are you (points finger at general populace). Please volunteer  to do this nice and early and there will be smiles all round. Thanks to the indefatigable Nick Marshall for being the first
 
Sun 22nd April - Hillingdon - Nick Marshall   Clap
Sun 13th May - Newport, South Wales - Cry
Sun 10th June - Castle Combe (from 2.00pm) - Alan Goodman Clap
Sun 1st July - Darley Moor, Ashbourne - Andrew S and Heather F Clap
Sat 21st July - Lancaster - Adrian and Claire Clap
Sun 22nd July - Preston - Ann and John Clap
Sat 11th August - Shrewsbury - Andrew C. + McDee Clap
Sun 12th August - Aldersley, Wolverhampton - Ian Fardoe + McDee Clap
Sun 16th September - Quibell Park, Scunthorpe - Lee Clap
Sun 30th September - Curborough - Cry
(Sun 14th October - Royal Docks London - not yet confirmed) - Cry


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gNick



"I'm afraid it's definite, Mrs Banker - your son has bicycles"



Replies:
Posted By: KeithD
Date Posted: 01 March 2007 at 4:34pm
What does an organiser need to do? (and is this the same as what they end up doing?)


Posted By: LeeW
Date Posted: 01 March 2007 at 6:04pm
Ditto above. I will take Quibell park if you want due to it being close and having visted several times before.

I did semi organise curbrough last sunday, it involved picking up the key and opening the circuit, collecting the cash, deciding on a race format and time, and then locking up and taking the keys and the cash back to the owner.

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Current fleet: Milan SL MK2 #027, Fujin SL II, Beany!



Posted By: laidbackcyclist
Date Posted: 01 March 2007 at 6:26pm
    Don't know what an organiser has to do not yet having been to anything but happy to help out with the Shrewsbury one.

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Andrew

ICE Sprint 26

The coming down is worth the going up (mostly)


Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 01 March 2007 at 8:05pm
I'll do Castle Coombe as it will be an excellent excuse for avoiding pedalling for two hours...

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Posted By: HeatherF
Date Posted: 01 March 2007 at 8:23pm
Andrew and I will do either Darley Moor or Curborough (or both if no-one else volunteers)

Heather


Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 01 March 2007 at 8:56pm
Being as we may need to have some races for some local special needs kids before we start at Aldersley, I'd better organise that one.
 But beware, I may well be comatose from newborn sleep deprivation.


Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 02 March 2007 at 9:11am
And I'll ask the Coulsons tomorrow if they're up for them, Claire and me to do the Lancaster / Preston weekend again.

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Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer


Posted By: NickM
Date Posted: 05 March 2007 at 10:46am
Originally posted by McDee McDee wrote:

What does an organiser need to do? (and is this the same as what they end up doing?)
 
This (below) is what gNick sent me before I ran Eastway last year - it's pretty comprehensive (and in my opinion needs helpers to be recruited if everything is to be done).
 
This year... "Assemble the timers and give them instruction on the operation of the stopwatches" ...won't be true, because the timing system is changing (see Technical/Timing system/Timing system preview). Exactly what is intended to happen for the first race is as yet unclear, but I have made plans to cope if that is still the case on April 22nd...
 
 

BEFORE THE EVENT:

·         Ask the competition secretary if keys need picking up and make arrangements to do so. Tracks need to be open and available by 9.00- 9.30.

·         If necessary place signs outside the event to indicate where to go in.

 

TRACK SETUP

·         Unpack the timing equipment, clock, flags etc. and set them up where necessary.

·         Set up signing on point, this should be manned to extract money.

·         Ask someone to walk/ride the track to check for glass, stones, burnt out cars, migrant elephants etc.

 

SIGNING ON

·         Encourage all racers to pay and sign on using supplied forms or computer database.

£7 for members

£10 for non-members

Free for juniors and those who have pre-paid for the season (lists for all are available).

·         Display format for racing, e.g. 11.20 “fast” race (e.g. 40 minutes plus 2 laps); 12.20 “slower” race (e.g. 40 minutes plus 2 laps), 2.00 fun race (e.g. knock out sprints)

 

RACE ALLOCATION

·         Based on previous form or, for riders with no recent form, on their estimate of speed. New riders should generally be in the slow race. [Data available from database]

·         Fields for the race heats should be posted up and announced as soon as possible.

 

MARSHALL ALLOCATION

·         On some tracks, notably Lancaster, there is a need for marshalls, either get volunteers or, if necessary, nominate them.
[This is an important issue and the organiser can stop a rider from competing (or, if they have competed in a previous heat, remove their placing) if they refuse to marshall without due cause.]

 

RACE ORGANISATION

·         10-15minutes before the start of each race call the riders to the track for warm-up, by calling out names. Those who aren't in the race should not be on the track.

·         5 min before the race start use the red flag to stop those warming up and assemble the start grid, reminding riders that THEY need to get a timer.

·         Assemble the timers and give them instruction on the operation of the stopwatches.

·         Remind the riders of the race duration, X minutes plus Y laps.

·         Start the race on time; delays due to natural causes e.g. wasp stings, are acceptable; errant competitors are not.

 

RACE FINISHING

·         When the leader has completed the race duration, begin the extra lap(s) countdown.

·         When the leader has one more lap to go, ring the bell for him/her and for every rider who crosses the line thereafter.

·         When the leader next crosses the line the race is finished and all competitors take the chequered flag

·         Note the race numbers as each rider crosses the line .[It is helpful to have someone to shout them out.]

·         Ensure that the field is clear before letting other riders on the track.

 

RESULT COLLECTION

·         Call timers in and collect results (race number, number of laps, finish time). Post the results as soon as is possible.

 

TRACK CLOSING

·         Pack up the timing equipment, clock, flags, etc. and pass on to the organiser of the next race.

·         Check the start/pit area for left luggage and rubbish. The track should be left in as good if not better a state as it was at the beginning of the day.

·         If necessary lock up the track, ensuring that all are out and return key if necessary.



Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 05 March 2007 at 10:59am
Originally posted by Adrian Setter Adrian Setter wrote:

And I'll ask the Coulsons tomorrow if they're up for them, Claire and me to do the Lancaster / Preston weekend again.
 
Yes, we'll do those two events between the four of us.


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Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer


Posted By: laidbackcyclist
Date Posted: 05 March 2007 at 10:17pm
In the 2007 dates thread 11th August is described as Shrewsbury and social rides. Is there racing in Shrewsbury on the Saturday as well as in Wolverhampton on the Sunday? What sort of length and terrain is wanted for the social rides?

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Andrew

ICE Sprint 26

The coming down is worth the going up (mostly)


Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 05 March 2007 at 11:13pm
That weekend is planned on having racing and social rides both days, we want some non-racing members to turn up, it should be a great weekend!

happy to discuss route options  (or several options if needs be), anything from 30-50 miles is usually okay, nominally with at least one pub stop.

Bearing in mind the new Shrewsbury circuit is on the (mostly for that stretch) HPV friendly bit of sustrans R81 (east of Shrewsbury) it should be pretty easy to use the Sundorne stadium as a start finish point.  (the stadium is on the grounds of the old manor at Pimley, just North of the River in case you didn't know).

Of course, cruising down to The Quarry and posing on 'bents on a sunny August Saturday afternoon doesn't make a social ride, but deffo makes a social event :D

 I was originally thinking an easier ride is a circular upto Hawkstone,
or a harder route down to Bridges via Pontesbury.

The Sunday ride could start from pretty much anywhere in between Much Wenlock and Wolves (unless you can think of an alternative Stokes Barn at Wenlock is the most likely accomodation).
Little point to starting a ride at Aldersley. :/



Posted By: KeithD
Date Posted: 06 March 2007 at 6:47pm
Originally posted by NickM NickM wrote:

This (below) is what gNick sent me before I ran Eastway last year - it's pretty comprehensive (and in my opinion needs helpers to be recruited if everything is to be done)

Thanks for that Nick.

gNick, put me down for the August weekend. The only doubts I've got are:
* I've not been to either track, so I'd have to depend on Andrew/Ian to organise the marshaling
* Given my travel arrangements, I'm not sure that I'm the best person to bring the equipment on Saturday / take it away on Sunday



Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 06 March 2007 at 9:43pm
McDee, the shrewsbury track can be persused at Leisure here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXYsMeCPaF8
http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/fardsmobile/album?.dir=5d3cre2&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/fardsmobile/my_photos


Aldersley is a steep Velodrome. I've still not had it confirmed that we can have it yet by the management there (they are crap).  But they've said yes in principle (it's taken some serious negotiation to get it at a sensible price).



Posted By: KeithD
Date Posted: 07 March 2007 at 7:08am
    Thanks for that fards. It looks like there'll need to be a marshall on the corner after the hairpin to keep the local wild life at bay (looks like a black cat - did it bring you luck?)


Posted By: laidbackcyclist
Date Posted: 09 April 2007 at 5:28pm
I had been thinking about routes round Shropshire for the August weekend when I read the article on the country's best climbs in this month's Cycle magazine. One of these is the Long Mynd. Would there be any call for a circular route including the Long Mynd and Stiperstones as a possible social ride? The Stiperstones Inn does a good lunch. Easier alternative routes would be available.

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Andrew

ICE Sprint 26

The coming down is worth the going up (mostly)


Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 09 April 2007 at 8:43pm
Andrew, I've jsut realised I never phoned you, sorry!

My 2nd optional was to be over that way, via bridges, but getting back to shrewsbury isn't too pleasant unless you come back via Condover.

Btw do you know of any decent campsites, Stokes Barn is fully booked, and most of the others around Shrewsbury don't have showers, except the one at Montford Bridge, which is the wrong side.


Posted By: laidbackcyclist
Date Posted: 09 April 2007 at 9:11pm
Did a run out that way on Friday but was not brave enough to do the Long Mynd. Came back through Condover which was fine.

I'll make enquiries about campsites. About how many pitches will be needed?

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Andrew

ICE Sprint 26

The coming down is worth the going up (mostly)


Posted By: GeoffBird
Date Posted: 09 April 2007 at 9:41pm
We did a social tour round Shropshire some years ago, including the ascent of the Long Mynd, a pub with it's own brewery (Smile) and a nice campsite. I will consult my notes for some clues as to the location of the latter two or perhaps gNick remembers?

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Right Time - Right Place - Wrong Speed


Posted By: laidbackcyclist
Date Posted: 09 April 2007 at 9:51pm
Pub was probably the Three Tuns at Bishops Castle. About 25 miles from Shrewsbury down A488.

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Andrew

ICE Sprint 26

The coming down is worth the going up (mostly)


Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 10 April 2007 at 7:46am
both pubs in bishops castle have a brewery, another reason for wanting to move there..

There's a campsite at Bridgnorth but it's off-route.


Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 10 April 2007 at 12:55pm
I was just thinking...
 
The "events" section of the main website isn't showing any details of the 2007 programme, just last year's.  The casual visitor would be forgiven for thinking that we're not racing this year.  With less than two weeks to the first race, wouldn't it be a good idea to update the "events" page?


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Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer


Posted By: laidbackcyclist
Date Posted: 12 April 2007 at 6:31pm
    The only 2 sites I've been to around here are SevernGorge in Ironbridge and Lower Lacon in Wem. Neither very close to Shrewsbury.

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Andrew

ICE Sprint 26

The coming down is worth the going up (mostly)


Posted By: NickM
Date Posted: 12 April 2007 at 8:20pm
Originally posted by laidbackcyclist laidbackcyclist wrote:

Pub was probably the Three Tuns at Bishops Castle. 
Ah! Judith and I were in there (twice) last weekend while walking in the Stiperstones. Nice food and superb beer, especially the Three8 Big smile

Oddly enough, Judith's Stobbies thrashed my Nobbies 8-3 on the way home Shocked


Posted By: Paul Lowing
Date Posted: 13 April 2007 at 11:34am
Originally posted by NickM NickM wrote:


Oddly enough, Judith's Stobbies thrashed my Nobbies 8-3 on the way home Shocked


The mind boggles.....


Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 13 April 2007 at 4:49pm
Originally posted by NickM NickM wrote:

Oddly enough, Judith's Stobbies thrashed my Nobbies 8-3
I may be mistaken, but I believe these might be colloquial terms for the vehicles of Edward Stobart and Norbert Dentressangle's haulage businesses. I'm a Willi man myself. Willi Betz that is.


Posted By: NickM
Date Posted: 13 April 2007 at 6:25pm
Originally posted by Andrew S Andrew S wrote:

...I believe these might be colloquial terms for the vehicles of Edward Stobart and Norbert Dentressangle's haulage businesses...


Correct. 1 point for each.

3 bonus points if you see a lorry with your own name on it.

Plus extra optional house rules for convoys and "nominated assists".

Our car journeys can be tense affairs Pinch


Posted By: laidbackcyclist
Date Posted: 17 May 2007 at 10:41pm
Originally posted by laidbackcyclist laidbackcyclist wrote:


I'll make enquiries about campsites. About how many pitches will be needed?


I'm happy to look around at some sites round here but need to know roughly how many pitches would be needed. All tents or any caravans?
Anyone interested in/members of YHA?
Is Bridgnorth too far out?
What about a site between Telford and Bridgnorth?

Give me a clue and I'll see what I can find.

    

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Andrew

ICE Sprint 26

The coming down is worth the going up (mostly)


Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 17 May 2007 at 11:20pm
Andrew PM sent.

Cound...


Posted By: Pete Cox
Date Posted: 18 May 2007 at 1:24pm
Ironbridge has both campsites and YHA (and PUBS).


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Pete the Librarian

Grasshopper,VK2, Rubicon, Moulton AM ++


Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 18 May 2007 at 2:59pm
Originally posted by Pete Cox Pete Cox wrote:

Ironbridge has both campsites and YHA (and PUBS).

Where's the campsite at Ironbridge mate?

I'm not aware of one except that caravan place and that's C&C only. Closest  we've got on record is the Styche at Much Wenlock.

If there's one I don't know about would be happy to check it out.. Would be another good venue.


Posted By: Pete Cox
Date Posted: 19 May 2007 at 6:40pm
OOPS! Campsite is not the same as finding a place to pitch a tent is it....

Yes, Styche is the nearest I know of too - nice spot and Much Wenlock's pretty and has good pubs. The other site in Wenlock at Stokes Barn is very groovy and has the camping barn if you don't want to canvas camp but it's a drag up and down from the top of the Edge into town after bevvies.

Looks like I'll be free that weekend to lead social tours for anyone not wanting to race - I'm not bothered about going quick and doing silly things just before PBP, but would be happy to ride down and show the sites of that bit of Shropshire.

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Pete the Librarian

Grasshopper,VK2, Rubicon, Moulton AM ++


Posted By: LeeW
Date Posted: 19 August 2007 at 10:10am
Would it be possible for someone to help me with the organising for Quibal park?
I have not done this before and advice would be appreciated. My mum is most likley comming too and will be able to help as well as provide cake to finishers.

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Current fleet: Milan SL MK2 #027, Fujin SL II, Beany!



Posted By: NickM
Date Posted: 01 September 2007 at 7:20pm
Don't worry, Lee - everybody who has organised before knows that it isn't a job for one person, so I'm sure you'll have the help you need on the day. I'll lend a hand if needed.

I know McDee (Keith Davis) was working on a "first-time organiser's pack" - you might like to get in touch and ask him whether it's complete.


Posted By: NickM
Date Posted: 07 September 2007 at 2:43pm
Do we have a volunteer for Hillingdon 2?


Posted By: GeoffBird
Date Posted: 11 September 2007 at 10:05pm
NickM wrote: "Do we have a volunteer for Hillingdon 2?"
 
Yeah, I'll do it, unpredictable work situation allowing.  Any assistance gratefully recieved.


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Right Time - Right Place - Wrong Speed



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