2007 European Pedal Car Championships
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Topic: 2007 European Pedal Car Championships
Posted By: antony
Subject: 2007 European Pedal Car Championships
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 3:53pm
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All,
The 2007 European Pedal Car Championships will be held over the weekend of September 1st and 2nd at the rather brilliant http://www.pedalcars.info/events/info.asp?VenueID=south_berkshire - Blackbushe circuit . This weekend is also rounds 6 and 7 of the 2007 BPCC, with 6 hours of racing on both days, so if anyone fancies standing around waiting to race* for large parts of two days, now's the time to organise some friends (a team is four drivers plus whatever support people you wish) and arrange to borrow a car (unless you're going to build one in the next 7 weeks). If you need a car and don't know where to start with organising the borrow of one, let me know as soon as possible. Those BHPC regulars who raced at Curborough a couple of years ago did, I seem to remember, have fun; from a driver's perspective Blackbushe is more technically demanding and thus more rewarding and even more fun. Especially if it's damp... 
Any 'BHPC affiliated' team can race without paying the annual BFPCR registration fee (£25). Race entry and driver licence fees are unchanged. 'BHPC affiliated' means a team made up mainly of BHPC members; it doesn't mean non-members who happen to have read this post on this forum! NB. Due to the circuit size, the field is limited to 35 cars. Some of these places are reserved for invitees from mainland Europe and other pedal car events, the remaining 30-ish are first-come-first-served. I don't envisage this causing the rejection of any would-be entrants, but you never know... Race entries and driver licences can be bought in our http://www.pedalcars.info/shop/Scripts/default.asp - online shop . Although arranging a car first might be a good idea... *A.k.a. Eating, hydrating, resting, taking lap times, keeping an eye on the opposition, adapting strategies to suit and generally supporting your team mates in a teamly sort of manner.  ------------- Deja mu: The feeling you've heard this bull before |
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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 11 July 2007 at 8:35pm
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I might be up for that if we can get a team together... ------------- |
Posted By: antony
Date Posted: 12 July 2007 at 9:32am
Cool. The sooner you do (if you do), the better the chance of borrowing a decent car! ------------- Deja mu: The feeling you've heard this bull before |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 12 July 2007 at 10:06am
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Any other takers then???
Anybody up for flying the BHPC flag (perhaps we could manage to do the whole event without getting disqualified this time...  )------------- |
Posted By: antony
Date Posted: 12 July 2007 at 1:12pm
Just remember, a team is four drivers*! *Although the weekend is two seperate BPCC events, so you don't have to use the same four drivers both days. Just you can only use four on any given day and they have to be named on the teamsheet, in advance of the race. ------------- Deja mu: The feeling you've heard this bull before |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 12 July 2007 at 2:58pm
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Looks like we may now have two as I've had a PM from another possible...
By my calculations that's 50% of a team...
I think at Curborough we had a few members who'd travelled up to have a look and when they saw how much fun it looked they couldn't resist the temptation to have a play... We'll try to behave this time...  ------------- |
Posted By: antony
Date Posted: 12 July 2007 at 4:38pm
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If you get more people interested than will fit, you may well find one or two other teams have a spare seat. ------------- Deja mu: The feeling you've heard this bull before |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 17 July 2007 at 11:40am
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It looks as though we have a very generous offer of the loan of a car....
Anybody else interested in having a go at this (it really was great fun last time...) ------------- |
Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 30 July 2007 at 1:58pm
On the other hand, I also have a couple of experienced drivers willing to fill in if you don't raise a 4!
The car ran to 3rd and 4th places respectively on the 2 days we had at Shenington the other weekend by the way so it's fairly compeitive. ------------- Racing is life... Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race.... |
antony wrote:Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 04 August 2007 at 9:18pm
Just got back from Wales and there doesn't seem to be any more interest from BHPC types... 
Any takers?? ------------- |
Posted By: Twed
Date Posted: 04 August 2007 at 11:22pm
Boy ....oh...boy..... do I wish i could... ------------- Never believe an atom they make up everything. |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 05 August 2007 at 7:16am
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So do I mate...
Hope you are soon back up to riding... All the best. ------------- |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 13 August 2007 at 10:52pm
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We need to let Jes know ASAP whether we can field a team for this event...
Anybody else interested in racing one or both days?? ------------- |
Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 13 August 2007 at 11:10pm
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The car is one of these by the way:
 The other one is currently leading the championship and won the European 24 hour race in France last year.
(We have better tyres now though!) ------------- Racing is life... Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race.... |
Posted By: PaulC
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 10:51am
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Hello Alan, As I mentioned I'm on holiday on the Sunday, but I can do the Saturday...
No offence taken if that doesn't suit. Thanks Paul
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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 11:00am
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Thanks Paul - Sounds fine to me - Anybody else?? ------------- |
Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 11:44am
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I'm still in
booked the time off the solarcar and getting backin to shape....... G |
Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 11:46am
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I'm gonna have sort a booster seat, as last time rode one of these I could only just see over the top!!!
I'll knock a foam pad up in the mold I've still got. G |
Posted By: PaulC
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:19pm
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Does anyone know how the car works sizing wise for different riders? I hate riding with my knees too bent... - P |
Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:19pm
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We had someone who was 6ft 5 in it all last season.
How tall are you? ------------- Racing is life... Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race.... |
Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:45pm
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umm like I'm the other way.....
5' 4" and 3/4s....... |
Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 12:47pm
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And you shared with Andy Franklin!
It's the same car you drove at Margam in 2006. ------------- Racing is life... Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race.... |
Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 1:03pm
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yet that's me.....
cooool, I could do with sorting a booster ;O) |
Posted By: PaulC
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 1:13pm
| I'm 'only' 5'10", so not too tall, but taller than Graham. |
Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 1:28pm
Exactly the same height as me.
You won't have a problem. ------------- Racing is life... Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race.... |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 1:56pm
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I shared a car with Dave Larrington at Curborough and that was fine (I saw not being able to see where I was going as a distinct advantage... Saved me having to close my eyes!!)
Jes has said that he is going to fit SPD pedals to the car which is fine with me - Is that ok with everybody else? We need to give Jes names and dates of birth ASAP - In spite of my cryptic forum user name, my real name is Alan Goodman and I was born 13th October 1962. We need to pay £30 per team (£15 per day). I'm happy to just send a cheque for now if that's ok with everybody else? Jes: Do you have any details of the camp site?? ------------- |
Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 2:13pm
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Yes, it is Runways End scout camp site.
http://www.rushmoor.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=1549 - http://www.rushmoor.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=1549 ------------- Racing is life... Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race.... |
Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 2:13pm
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SPD's are good for me...
will sent PM re- age and real name 
if you don't mind div'ing up the anti cool will settel up with you at the track. other cost: tyres chains etc? getting the car there? repairs after first crash  ?
regards Graham Sparey-Taylor 07 July 1968 DUH that's meant to be in a PM 
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Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 2:16pm
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The car is a loan - no charge.
I might ask for a small donation towards tyres or something.
Let's see how the car looks at the end of the race.
I remember that 24 hour which Graydog drove provided an unusually large amount of mechanical mayhem. Changing the drive shaft at 4am for example... ------------- Racing is life... Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race.... |
Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 2:47pm
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Jes your to kind
yes the drive shaft ummmm O and the Chain as I piled off... thanks Graydog |
Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 3:15pm
Hey I know that site, did some transects across there many years ago! |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 14 August 2007 at 8:25pm
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Cheque on the way - Anybody else interested in having a go please contact me ASAP. ------------- |
Posted By: antony
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 9:42am
Thanks Alan!
Don't worry, it's going in a van that was going there as a van with some empty space otherwise!
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Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 15 August 2007 at 10:39am
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That's a blast from the past!
The 2nd one wasn't even a race - just a testing session.
Did we really use to race those without bucket seats?
How did we cope with 16" wheels and fat tyres?
In those days men were real men, boys were real boys and small green furry creatures from Alpha Centurii were real small green furry creatures from Alpha centurii!
We've come a long way in 4 years. ------------- Racing is life... Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race.... |
Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 17 August 2007 at 9:42am
Gentlemen,
 your carriage awaits
Well, a few more little things to do.
And it will be number 41.
But basically it is together and I'm shaking it down tonight to see if it goes. ------------- Racing is life... Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race.... |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 17 August 2007 at 9:50am
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Many thanks Jes!! ------------- |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 28 August 2007 at 11:50am
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Graydog/Paul:
Just had this from Jes regarding shoes/pedals for the event - I'm happy to use Look or SPD so has anybody else got a preference??: Alan, 2 choices for the weekend! Contrary to what I said, I have looks fitted to the car at present. If you want to run looks then that is fine and my driver already has them. If you want to ru n"spd's" then that will also work but it would help if you could bring a set of pedals(! sorry!). Also, Jimmy will need to borrow / share a pair of size 9 shoes I'm afraid. Let me know what you want to do and we can sort it out. Thanks, Jes P.S: Be prepared for this to change on the day - such things happen... ------------- |
Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 28 August 2007 at 12:27pm
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I've only got SPD's right now, but will check to see if they will take the look clips, today.
regards G ************************8 just checked SDP only...... can't find the an adaptor plate either
I'm a size 6 making it hard to find good shoes. |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 28 August 2007 at 1:41pm
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Jes has now said that he may be able to bring some SPD shoes along for Jimmy if necessary.
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Posted By: PaulC
Date Posted: 28 August 2007 at 1:51pm
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I would be slightly leaning towards SPD. My shoes are a well worn 10. I don't mind sharing these, (though probably best to time arrange the pit change order to minimise shoe faffing). I can bring some SPD pedals I have if necessary.
My shoes could take looks if need be, but I don't have any cleats at present...
Thanks, Paul
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Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 28 August 2007 at 2:05pm
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I'll bring my road SPD pedals just in case to.
regards Graham |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 28 August 2007 at 3:02pm
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Sounding like SPDs are going to be favourite... ------------- |
Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 28 August 2007 at 4:23pm
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Cool.
I will bring the car down without pedals and you can fit your own.
Whichever driver we lend you (Jimmy or Steven) and Bob who will join you on Sunday when someone was having to leave as I remember will have spd's. ------------- Racing is life... Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race.... |
Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 28 August 2007 at 5:15pm
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Are you representing England, Wales or Scotland by the way? ------------- Racing is life... Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race.... |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 28 August 2007 at 5:22pm
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Good question!!
I'm English, I think Graydog is Welsh??? Can we just be British?? ------------- |
Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 28 August 2007 at 9:28pm
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British it is. Oddly, when we raced in France last year we were "Apollo Racing - Team GB" but this year I have sorted the entries into England, Wales, France and Italy. Possibly because there is a large Welsh contingent in the BPCC but mostly because it sounds better and I like the 6 nations rugby championship...
Top Italian team just joined the entry list btw! ------------- Racing is life... Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race.... |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 28 August 2007 at 9:37pm
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Cool - Sounds like there is going to be a good turnout and the weather forecast is good as well...
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Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 28 August 2007 at 9:44pm
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Oh well, you can't have everything.
Blackbushe with a damp track is just out of this world but, to be fair, we've had a good fill of wet racing this year.
A bit of drizzle would be nice though - tends to swing things the way of the Apollo's because their handling is better balanced than some of the short wheelbased cars (which are lighter and some of which have faster drivers...) ------------- Racing is life... Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race.... |
Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 29 August 2007 at 12:57am
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Well, I'm actually English by birth, grow up in Ireland and have 600yrs of Scotish....you get the picture....not sure what I am
I've represnted Wales now in several event by right of living here. |
Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 30 August 2007 at 10:41pm
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Car is ready apart from pedals which you are bringing yourselves.
Even has BHPC logos on it. How good is that? ------------- Racing is life... Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race.... |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 30 August 2007 at 10:50pm
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Wahay!!
Many thanks Jes... Looking forward to it... ------------- |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 01 September 2007 at 8:19pm
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We're currently in 10th place which we're pretty happy with considering the little mishap...
Paul C was absolutely flying (as usual) but unfortunately got a bit over-enthusiastic at the chicane and turned the car over!! Paul: Have a good holiday, hope you are feeling ok... Just another 6 hours to go tomorrow then...  ------------- |
Posted By: PaulC
Date Posted: 01 September 2007 at 9:08pm
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Many thanks to Jes for arranging everything, and sorry about the crash... A great first day of pedalcar-ing, (yes despite the incident). Good luck to the rest of the team:) Got in front of the mirror at home. Many more random scrapes and bruises all over. Looks like I've been in a fight with a disk sander/angle grinder ! Oh well, only scrapes, otherwise absolutely fine:) Just so glad I didn't spoil my holiday by injuring myself. Someone did indeed dislocate on that chicane! Go team BHPC  P |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 01 September 2007 at 10:24pm
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Good to hear you are ok Paul!
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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 02 September 2007 at 7:15pm
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I think we finished in the top 10...
Many thanks to Jes for the loan of the car, and to everybody else for making us welcome. Thanks to Jimmy for standing in both days and to Bob and Pete for today. Top fun! If only the French and Italians had learned a couple of English words before the start... "Left" and "Right" for example... ------------- |
Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 03 September 2007 at 6:18pm
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I think BHPC finished 9th (my own team finished 8th I believe) but official results will be out in a few days.
Glad to see you had a good time.
It's a totally different kind of racing to the BHPC events.
Like I said, until you do a pedal car race at somewhere like Blackbushe it is difficult to explain why pedal cars are built like they are. Like, they have to hit that chicane at 40kph 700 times in 2 days!
That's why they are a bit hench compared to the fantastic lightweight machines that win BHPC events.
Now, here's a challenge for you:
2008 Welsh 24 hour.
Margam Park, Port Talbot.
June 28th - 29th.
------------- Racing is life... Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race.... |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 03 September 2007 at 7:22pm
I might be up for that.... Any other BHPC takers??? Would be good to have a full BHPC team... ------------- |
Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 03 September 2007 at 7:52pm
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You find a team (by the end of April to give us a chance) and we'll find you a car!
You'll have to find a way of transporting it to and from the track this time, but I'm sure we can sort something out...
(omg, what have I said!)
------------- Racing is life... Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race.... |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 03 September 2007 at 8:03pm
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Any takers????
We need a team of 6... ------------- |
Posted By: antony
Date Posted: 05 September 2007 at 4:55pm
2008 European Pedal Car Championships, Italy. Probably Reana del Rojale, Udine (near Trieste), August 9th and 10th, 2008. If you can't persuade anyone to lend you a UK car, Karbyk will lend you one of theirs that you wont need to get out there (and back). 
Glad you all had a good time. ------------- Deja mu: The feeling you've heard this bull before |
Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 05 September 2007 at 7:58pm
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thanks for the fun guys......
Um Italy for hols now that sounds interesting, but when are the World HPVs?....... as for 2008 Welsh 24 hour,training starts tomorrow or maybe the day after, errr sunday, ok some time........ ;o) thanks again for the use of your car, I'll sort the gps data out for you there is a lot of it!!!!!! |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 05 September 2007 at 8:09pm
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Our World Championships are going to be the following weekend...
Hope we are going to see some pedal cars there?? ------------- |
Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 05 September 2007 at 9:31pm
| looks like one or t`other then....... |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 06 September 2007 at 8:11am
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I won't be able to make the European Pedal car event but the 24 hour is a possibility... ------------- |
Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 06 September 2007 at 10:05am
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That's good.
The offer of the car is for the 24 hour! ------------- Racing is life... Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race.... |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 06 September 2007 at 10:09am
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So....
Anybody else fancy it??? ------------- |
Posted By: antony
Date Posted: 06 September 2007 at 12:42pm
I think I'll have just got back from a long road-trip to Italy in a large van full of pedal cars, so not me I'm afraid. Shame, looks like a great venue. ------------- Deja mu: The feeling you've heard this bull before |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 06 September 2007 at 3:51pm
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I think you guys would like the Hillingdon/Hayes circuit we race on... It's relatively cheap, has a great surface and some interesting corners...
Definitely one of our better tracks. We're there in the afternoon of 13th October if you want to take a look... ------------- |
Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 06 September 2007 at 4:47pm
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2 questions:
Is there space (width) for pits?
Is it secure (like, you don't get people wandering across.
As you can appreciate with the number of juniors who race pedal cars, we have to be especially careful.
Jes ------------- Racing is life... Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race.... |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 06 September 2007 at 5:31pm
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Security could be an issue actually... Would probably need marshalling in a couple of places...
I think there would be room for pits - There are some good photos cortesey of our Promotions Officer here... http://www.bhpc.org.uk/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=796 ------------- |
Posted By: antony
Date Posted: 12 September 2007 at 10:55am
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Alan / Graham / Paul:
I came home from Blackbushe with a single GILL track mitt. No-one on the pedal cars forum has laid claim to it yet and given the proximity of our pits, I'm wondering if it's one of yours? ------------- Deja mu: The feeling you've heard this bull before |