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Topic: 2008 racing calendar
Posted By: jes@gcre
Subject: 2008 racing calendar
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 1:55pm

This is now up on http://www.pedalcars.info - www.pedalcars.info

 
Jes


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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 2:07pm
I notice you've left the World Championship weekend free so hopefully we'll see a bunch of you at Bentwaters...

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Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 2:21pm
Also missing from the list is the European Championships (we thing the weekend before the Worlds) and the BAE Castle Combe Charity Challenge (probably 14th September).
 
The BAE race also permits teams racing trikes so it would be an excellent, and unipque, opportunity for pedal cars and 3 wheelers to race against each other in an endurance event whilst rasing some cash for a good cause.
 
 
I think the tally is Trikes 2 ; Pedal Cars 2 over the 4 editions so far...


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Racing is life...
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Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 5:15pm
Originally posted by jes@gcre jes@gcre wrote:

This is now up on http://www.pedalcars.info - www.pedalcars.info

 
Jes
 
"Shenington Kart Club have been brilliant in having the faith to let us run the 24 hour race there next year and we hope that the venue will be popular."
 
I guess it must be the shortage of wheels they don't like about us then, rather than our human-poweredness Unhappy


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Posted By: GeoffBird
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 5:50pm
Adrian wrote: "I guess it must be the shortage of wheels they don't like about us then, rather than our human-poweredness"
 
IIRC, the reason they gave was that bikes might damage the track when they crash Confused.


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Posted By: LeeW
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 6:19pm
Originally posted by jes@gcre jes@gcre wrote:


The BAE race also permits teams racing trikes so it would be an excellent, and unipque, opportunity for pedal cars and 3 wheelers to race against each other in an endurance event whilst rasing some cash for a good cause.

 

 

I think the tally is Trikes 2 ; Pedal Cars 2 over the 4 editions so far...


Does that mean I can ride the Quest?


    

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Posted By: GeoffBird
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 6:41pm
LeeW wrote: "Does that mean I can ride the Quest?"
 
It'd be good to get some faired Windcheetahs and/or Davies trikes there as well - they would almost certainly win Smile. Obviously the charity aspect is important as well...


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Posted By: Rob
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 6:58pm
Originally posted by LeeW LeeW wrote:

Does that mean I can ride the Quest?

Hey Lee,
We could go for a 1:2...
What is the distance?
What pace do you think we could get with a Quest chaingang?
Rob
    

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Posted By: LeeW
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 7:12pm
Not sure what kind of speed increase (if any) a Quest could get drafting another Quest. At cyclevision I could not really feel any advantage attempting to draft another Quest but I had not raced it before and was riding a good few feet behind, it is hard to see how close you are to another bike in front.

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Posted By: Rob
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 7:24pm
Originally posted by LeeW LeeW wrote:

Not sure what kind of speed increase (if any) a Quest could get drafting another Quest. At cyclevision I could not really feel any advantage attempting to draft another Quest but I had not raced it before and was riding a good few feet behind, it is hard to see how close you are to another bike in front.

Might be speed benefit from having another machine to pace even if no aero benefit. It is easy to back off the pace riding alone.
3/4 position rather than behind could work better...?
    

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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 8:35pm
From the average speeds I think some of our unfaired multitrack riders would be close to the pace of the Pedal Cars.
Would certainly be fun!

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Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 10:35pm
It's not the full circuit of course otherwise our 160 laps in 6 hours would be somewhat impressive.
 
Think Shrewsbury but with tighter corners, a hill, and bumps!


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Racing is life...
Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race....


Posted By: antony
Date Posted: 11 October 2007 at 9:52am
... and the fact that we never actually know the circuit layout for definite until the first lap, pretty much.

First year was the full circuit.

Second year was up the pit lane, right into the paddock, left, up to the Avon bridge, left then right onto the pit entry lane, up to the main circuit, hairpin left, down the starting grid, hairpin left and into the pit exit lane.

Third year was down the pit lane and exit, hairpin right onto the circuit, up the grid, in under the Avon bridge (through a single-track gate with big metal posts both sides! ), round a paddock building, back to the cafe and back into the pit lane.

This year was like the second year, but some people in the paddock took about 12 hours to load two ferraris and a tent into the back of a lorry, so the paddock bit was removed and we went straight up the pit lane.


So depending on layout, a team in a Quest or similar could walk all over the field - or not!

Cant remember the vehicle rules, either - many of them were lifted from the pedal car spec (with permission), although clearly not all of them! So you'd need to check about maximum lengths and the like.


All that said, the main thing the event is lacking is more entries, so some BHPC representation would be great - and the BHPC might be more successful than the BPCC has been in terms of getting some of the teams to race more events, purely on the basis of numbers of wheels on existing machinery.

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Posted By: GeoffBird
Date Posted: 11 October 2007 at 12:13pm
Jes wrote: "Think Shrewsbury but with tighter corners..."
 
That'd slow a Quest down a bit - We were Marshalling at the hairpin and we were never quite sure if Lee was gonna make it round!
 
A racing trike is a different matter, as anyone who has seen Andy Pegg or Mike Burrows hustle a faired Windcheetah round the Eastway hairpin will know.


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Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 14 December 2007 at 10:33am
Update!
 
2008 BPCC calendar is now as follows:
 
13th April - Shrewsbury - 100miles / 6 hours max
 
10th May - Margam Park - 10 hours (day/night race)
 
28th-29th June - Shenington - 24 hours
 
13th July - Ringwood 2 hour charity race
 
20th July - Silverstone - 1hr + 2hrs + 3 hrs
 
6th September - Blackbushe - 1hr + 2hrs + 3hrs
 
7th September - Blackbushe - 5 hours
 
?14th September - BAE Castle Combe Charity Challenge?
 
27th September - Curborough - 1hr + 2hrs + 3hrs (day/night race)
 


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Racing is life...
Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race....


Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 14 December 2007 at 8:40pm
How did you manage to get Silverstone???
Should be fun...

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Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 16 December 2007 at 9:27pm
It's not what you know...
 
We will be in typical pedal car surroundings of "car park 49" which is the big one on the left as you enter the circuit and, apparently, also includes the visitor centre and Costa Coffee!Tongue


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Racing is life...
Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race....



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