Darley Moor
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Topic: Darley Moor
Posted By: JDub
Subject: Darley Moor
Date Posted: 26 July 2010 at 12:24pm
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Just starting the topic. I will be bringing the timing kit, but I think I will have done my stint after I've done the L/P results. I'll make sure it is there early and am happy to talk the next victim through what I know of it. Race formats? One race each way? Not my decision! ------------- jdub... Got the T-shirt http://protobikes.org.uk/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/150386999@N02/ |
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Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 26 July 2010 at 12:43pm
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Darley Moor is a good venue for having one race each way around the track, so I'd vote for that. We do need somebody/bodies to volunteer to organisate the races. As Jonathan says, you won't be left to deal with all the electronickery on your own and, especially if it's your first time, there will be several old hands willing to help you. Please post here if you think it might be about time you took your turn - which is something most of you should be thinking...
Feel free tp PM me if you're thinking about it but have any concerns. ------------- Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer |
Posted By: BarneyH
Date Posted: 26 July 2010 at 2:37pm
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Adrian
I'll put my hand up to help with Darley Moor but not the electronics - I'm happy to help do sign on, money, flags, clocks, timing etc and whatever else is needed as so far this year I've only done a bit of light organisating help at Scunthorpe.
Barney
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Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 26 July 2010 at 4:43pm
Thanks, Barney. 
We'll sort out assistance with the timing system. ------------- Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer |
Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 27 July 2010 at 9:40pm
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Did say I'd organist this one, but I'm happy to let someone else have a play if they want.
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Posted By: Paul Goodwin
Date Posted: 27 July 2010 at 10:05pm
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I'm more than happy to be a dogsbody if I can make it to Darley Moore. Admittedly I've only taken part in three races but if you need anyone to help set up timing strips etc then I'm willing to help. |
Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 28 July 2010 at 10:40am
D'oh. Me and my memory. Looks like we'll have plenty of organisatorial hands on deck, then.
Now, let me go and actually check my notes to see if we've got one for Hillingdon and for Hog Hill (though I don't think we have, yet)... ------------- Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer |
fards wrote:Posted By: GeoffBird
Date Posted: 28 July 2010 at 7:46pm
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I said I'd do Hillingdon II months ago. Happy to share the responsibility though!
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 28 July 2010 at 10:06pm
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Posted By: gNick
Date Posted: 01 August 2010 at 6:41pm
I'll do the timing system and yes I will set the alarm this time!  ------------- gNick "I'm afraid it's definite, Mrs Banker - your son has bicycles" |
Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 02 August 2010 at 12:57pm
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lol, that frees me up then ;p. barney and I were discussing sharing duties.
I think plan for the day is couple of shorter racers either direction, a la curborough last year, which suits me as I'm riding up to dm . |
Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 02 August 2010 at 3:33pm
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What are "shorter".
20 mins + a lap?
Thinking a couple of us might be able to do this one.
J ------------- Racing is life... Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race.... |
Posted By: Paul Goodwin
Date Posted: 02 August 2010 at 8:27pm
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Same question really, how long is short? Seeing as I'm also riding up to DM from Coventry that weekend, anybody know of any decent cafes etc near to the track where I can stop for some breakfast on the way? |
Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 02 August 2010 at 9:49pm
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yes 20mins+ 1 lap per race, 2 races per "speed group" in either direction. is the plan of attack so far. Paul, not really, especially early on sunday morning, everything is closed around there (what there is as it's very rural) which way were you planning on going in? I've taken to heading in via Uttoxeter/Doveridge/marston Montgomery as the climbing is shallower along that road.. if you want a decent route in then PM me I know the roads around there pretty well, there's some lovely roads that avoid climbing over towards Burton on trent as well..
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Posted By: stormbird
Date Posted: 03 August 2010 at 11:36am
Does that mean there will be a pedal car there I could try ? I was interested when the call went out for a driver in the 24hour but never having driven a pedal car at all I though a 24hr race was probably not the place or time to try one ? I don't race at BHPC events , to slow and likely to be a hazard to others ! regards Paul |
Posted By: Yanto63
Date Posted: 03 August 2010 at 12:23pm
Erm, can i have a go in a car?? after racing of course! ------------- Ian |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 03 August 2010 at 1:16pm
Ha ! You all say this now, when the 24hr has gone 
I had a ball in a pedal car - very similar to a recumbent in position, so very little adaptation required, but a lot different in racing style. Can heartily recommend it as an addition to your HPV experiences
Jes - please can you bring one ? Too much fun !!
PS Might get some more drivers out of it, too ....
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Posted By: Neil
Date Posted: 03 August 2010 at 1:17pm
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Ours will hopefully be there again this year  |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 03 August 2010 at 1:30pm
 There are always teams looking for drivers (including us at most races this year!!)
We're unlikely to have the car at Darley Moor but I'm in Hemel Hempstead if anybody is localish and wants a go in one... ------------- |
Posted By: JDub
Date Posted: 03 August 2010 at 1:42pm
Is Rob going over to the dark side? ------------- jdub... Got the T-shirt http://protobikes.org.uk/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/150386999@N02/ |
Posted By: Neil
Date Posted: 03 August 2010 at 1:49pm
Hes not the only one 
Theres been a couple of BHPC members seen in pedalcars recently
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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 03 August 2010 at 1:50pm
He joined us for the 24 hour race at Shenington...
Anybody who hasn't done a pedal car race really should have a go... I'd be very surprised if anybody who likes racing/playing with bikes didn't have a great time... ------------- |
Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 03 August 2010 at 2:10pm
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Are we going to see at BHPC team at Blackbushe for the Europeans then?
We are currently trying to match teams without cars to cars who's teams are not racing so now is the time. ------------- Racing is life... Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race.... |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 03 August 2010 at 2:23pm
It's 4th and 5th of September... No clash with BHPC events so come on down... ------------- |
Posted By: stormbird
Date Posted: 03 August 2010 at 3:07pm
Sadly I think I am down for baby sitting that weekend , however I did pencil in the Curbourgh meeting on the 25th Sept as a possible , the baby sitting should get me a pass out
 regards Paul
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Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 03 August 2010 at 3:42pm
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There may well be a spare car for the Curborough race as we are in the process of borrowing the 2008 championship winning machine back from it's owners at present.
Let me know if there is a team to pedal it within the next few weeks and I will see what can be done. ------------- Racing is life... Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race.... |
Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 16 August 2010 at 5:05pm
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2 of us are planning on coming to Darley Moor.
Where can I enter and get a race number please?
Jes ------------- Racing is life... Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race.... |
Posted By: BarneyH
Date Posted: 16 August 2010 at 5:31pm
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Just sign on with me on the day and I'll sort a suitable race number.
Barney
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Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 16 August 2010 at 6:26pm
You can be allocated numbers on the day, or if you want to sort them out beforehand you could PM gNick to get a number allocated. Or even, if you're very lucky, numbers you already use for BPCC racing may turn out not to be in current use. Again, ask gNick. ------------- Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer |
Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 16 August 2010 at 10:34pm
I doubt it - we are 2 and 3! ------------- Racing is life... Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race.... |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 16 August 2010 at 11:29pm
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Lee is number 2... Is anybody using number 3?? ------------- |
Posted By: Paul Goodwin
Date Posted: 16 August 2010 at 11:51pm
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Number 3 is apparently one Anna Jenkins. Looking at the software it looks like there aren't really any free numbers until 127 onwards. |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 17 August 2010 at 12:17am
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Anybody know what time the gates/track will be open? ------------- |
Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 17 August 2010 at 9:11am
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I can make them 002 and 003 if you would like... ------------- Racing is life... Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race.... |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 17 August 2010 at 9:19am
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222 and 333 look to be available if that helps Jes... ------------- |
Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 17 August 2010 at 9:29am
I'll be making my usual pre-event check with the venue today, though the Darley Moor chap sometimes takes a day to respond. They've always been open before 10.00 in the past - except that one time when they forgot we were coming, which is why I always give venues a nudge in the preceding week... ------------- Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer |
Posted By: Paul Goodwin
Date Posted: 17 August 2010 at 10:45am
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Unfortunately the results software just reads that as being 2 and 3, it just ignores the 0 before hand by the looks of it. Alan's suggestion of 222 and 333 are not in use though. Obviously it all depends on whether gNick gives it the ok but they could be the best bet. |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 17 August 2010 at 11:57am
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Are we going to use tally sheets/stopwatch as a backup for the timing system at Darley Moor, or just the video camera?
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Posted By: Rob
Date Posted: 17 August 2010 at 4:54pm
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Site access to park up has always been open when we've rolled up at 0930... Access to the loos/track usually sometime between 0930 and 1000. ------------- -- Rob, Westcountry Recumbents http://www.wrhpv.com http://mullimages.com http://glydearoundbritain.blogspot.com |
Posted By: gNick
Date Posted: 17 August 2010 at 10:15pm
PM me with the machine & rider details and I'll see about 222 & 333... ------------- gNick "I'm afraid it's definite, Mrs Banker - your son has bicycles" |
Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 17 August 2010 at 10:17pm
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Would suggest 222 and 233 - I think the software assumes a max number of 300 - might be wrong but ..... wouldn't risk it. Although Anna hasn't raced this season. I think she would be upset at losing her number (3) so would rather keep it. ------------- Kevin Jenkins Windcheetah |
Posted By: gNick
Date Posted: 17 August 2010 at 10:18pm
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Or maybe even 128 and 130?
------------- gNick "I'm afraid it's definite, Mrs Banker - your son has bicycles" |
Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 17 August 2010 at 11:09pm
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This would be so much easier if there was an online entry thingy... ------------- Racing is life... Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race.... |
Posted By: Neil
Date Posted: 17 August 2010 at 11:20pm
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Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 18 August 2010 at 9:07am
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I've had confirmation that the gates will be open for 9.30 ------------- Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer |
Posted By: BarneyH
Date Posted: 18 August 2010 at 12:09pm
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Does anybody know who's got all the organisator gear at present ? I seem to have volunteered to work alongside Fards so it would be nice to know that the kit will be arriving.
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Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 18 August 2010 at 12:16pm
Jonathan, has the laptop and timing kit. I don't remember whether he had the blue crate too, whether Slash had that or whether Slash just took custody of the several of items of abandoned property at Preston ------------- Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer |
Posted By: slasher
Date Posted: 18 August 2010 at 1:37pm
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I only have the lost bits. Which I will bring to Darley Moor. ------------- Brought to you by the makers of Beano. |
Posted By: BarneyH
Date Posted: 18 August 2010 at 6:08pm
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Ok so DRAFT! format for Darley Moor
09:30 Gates Open - track available for practice - (remember your helmet) as soon as the organisators get there we will be asking practice laps to be done in the ANTICLOCKWISE DIRECTION!
10:00 Sign in starts
11:00 (or therabouts) First race - Slow race 20mins plus 1 lap ANTICLOCKWISE (not the usual direction)
11:45 Second race - Fast race 20mins plus 1 lap ANTICLOCKWISE (not the usual direction)
12:30 Pause for practice laps in the CLOCKWISE direction
1:00 Third race - Slow race 20mins plus 1 lap CLOCKWISE (the usual direction)
1:45 Fourth race - Fast race 20mins plus 1 lap CLOCKWISE (the usual direction)
Points will be weighted towards clockwise races split yet to be decided but we will tell you so that you can let that influence your tactical decision making.
For those who've not been before Darley Moor is in a particularly exposed location with no shops, burger bars, cafe's, showers, heated changing rooms or any other facilities other than the most basic of toilets so please remember to bring everything you need - the weather is forecast to be "British" so bring a tent / waterproofs you'll be glad of them.
Any questions or newbies who haven't been before and need help please let either Fards or myself know.
Barney
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Posted By: martinbguk
Date Posted: 18 August 2010 at 6:49pm
Is that gale force like Fowlmead  , or just wet?Might test out my improvised shelter as long as it's not gale force.  ------------- HRSO2 No 59 www.mbg-recumbent-racing.blogspot.com |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 18 August 2010 at 7:17pm
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Not too bad according to the BBC forecast... light rain and 10MPH wind...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/2219?area=DE6 - http://news.bbc.co.uk/weather/forecast/2219?area=DE6
So knowing how accurate the BBC forecast usually is... Bring yer wellies... ------------- |
Posted By: martinbguk
Date Posted: 18 August 2010 at 8:16pm
I bought a new wet suit whilst I was on holiday! Maybe I'll need it. ------------- HRSO2 No 59 www.mbg-recumbent-racing.blogspot.com |
Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 18 August 2010 at 10:46pm
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usually mulitply wind forecasts by 5 for darley moor.. at least for that long back straight.. oh goody hot and humid... perfect for trying to look through a big frontscreen :( thankfully there's only 3 corners to remember..
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Posted By: Paul Goodwin
Date Posted: 19 August 2010 at 4:45pm
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It would be great if the rain held off for sunday but seeing as it's a fair ride to the circuit then sod's law dictates it shall chuck it down. I'll try and get there pretty early to assist in the setting up. Hopefully the uni reunion hangover won't be too epic. |
Posted By: slasher
Date Posted: 20 August 2010 at 10:41am
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I will not be going to Darley Moor this weekend, so I will bring the lost and found to Hillingdon. Have fun on Sunday. x x ------------- Brought to you by the makers of Beano. |
Posted By: Wyndrake
Date Posted: 20 August 2010 at 1:11pm
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Darley Moor is too far to drive just for a soaking. So, apolgies to those I promised 'a go in the Sunrider' - that will have to wait until Hillingdon, where the sun always glimmers.... |
Posted By: LeeW
Date Posted: 20 August 2010 at 1:27pm
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Er, Don't you now have a velomobile? Is the sunrider not made for wet weather like most are? ------------- Current fleet: Milan SL MK2 #027, Fujin SL II, Beany! |
Posted By: Rob
Date Posted: 20 August 2010 at 2:55pm
This Hillingdon? ------------- -- Rob, Westcountry Recumbents http://www.wrhpv.com http://mullimages.com http://glydearoundbritain.blogspot.com |
Posted By: Wyndrake
Date Posted: 20 August 2010 at 3:25pm
Yes, but at 45kg + , the Sunrider is not designed for racing, at least not by a Grandad like me .... unless, you'll let me compete with electric motor with Pedelec turned off!
 I intend to stick with the Speedy for racing and use the Sunrider for touring and promotional work. Oh! and as the Managing Director says, (as she looks over my shoulder) "to go to Tesco's for shopping!"
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Posted By: Wyndrake
Date Posted: 20 August 2010 at 3:30pm
That's right Rob ..... if you enlarge the picture you can just see the sun glinting off the window of Flat No 341 in Uxbridge Tower Block A. ..... Although, on closer inspection it could be the tenant lighting up a spliff ......
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Posted By: Twed
Date Posted: 20 August 2010 at 6:21pm
The Tweds have just bought a pop-up tent from Decthalon for such occasions....so if anyone is swinging by 'too hot to cycle yet in this bright sunny weather' Lyon  ....then you are welcome to it  ------------- Never believe an atom they make up everything. |
Posted By: Yanto63
Date Posted: 21 August 2010 at 10:38am
Why? if both races equal duration why not 50/50 split. afterall if this is anybody's first time at Darley, then they won't have any bias anyway! or does your bike go faster one way than the other? ------------- Ian |
Posted By: GeoffBird
Date Posted: 21 August 2010 at 11:49am
Weather's looking okay for tomorrow now  Oh no, what have I said??!!  ------------- Right Time - Right Place - Wrong Speed |
Posted By: martinbguk
Date Posted: 21 August 2010 at 2:25pm
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Geoff... What have you done?  Fowlmead 2 here we come!!Still, Alan can bring his Sunrider now! ------------- HRSO2 No 59 www.mbg-recumbent-racing.blogspot.com |
Posted By: Wyndrake
Date Posted: 21 August 2010 at 2:43pm
Oh! Bu***r. I can't come anyway now - having felt rather weird (Or weirder than normal!) last evening, Mrs B arranged for me to have a trip in an emergency ambulence ..... on arrival at hospital, a Junior doctor (he must be Junior, 'cos I swear he has yet to reach his 17th birthday..) informs me that I had had a mini-stroke. So, I'm prevented from driving cars until further tests completed.
I suppose I could ride the Sunrider to Darley Moor, but to get there on time I would have to leave last Tuesday!
Race well on Sunday , rain or shine...
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Posted By: HeatherF
Date Posted: 21 August 2010 at 3:32pm
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Sorry to hear that Alan. Hope you feel better soon.
Love from Heather, Judith, Nick and Andrew in a very rainy Nottingahm
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Posted By: Hadden
Date Posted: 21 August 2010 at 5:33pm
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Why 2, 20 min races it's ridiculous ! ------------- Simon Sanderson. |
Posted By: BarneyH
Date Posted: 21 August 2010 at 5:53pm
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Simon
It's a format we tried successfully at Curborough last year and somebody earlier in the year suggested we repeat it at Darley Moor this year so we're giving it a go.
However if you wish to organise and run a different format of racing then I'm more than happy to stand down from my role of helping Fards to run this one and you can step up.
Barney
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Posted By: Yanto63
Date Posted: 21 August 2010 at 6:28pm
spoken like a true organiser! 
variety is the spice of life! for those not stuck in a rut! But no i don't want to see graydogs suggesting his incomprehensible range of formats  ------------- Ian |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 21 August 2010 at 9:33pm
Really sorry to hear that Alan... get well soon! ------------- |
Posted By: martinbguk
Date Posted: 21 August 2010 at 10:28pm
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Alan Hope to see you back on your trike very soon. Good luck with those tests. Martin ------------- HRSO2 No 59 www.mbg-recumbent-racing.blogspot.com |
Posted By: slasher
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 10:18am
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I quite liked the two 20 min races. It made for fast and furious racing as those of you at Curborough would have seen between me and Lee. It does make the problem of overtaking more desperate as you have less time to get back on to some ones tail. But I liked it. It's just a shame I will not be at Darley. x x ------------- Brought to you by the makers of Beano. |
Posted By: Rob
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 4:56pm
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Thanks to the organising team! I've mixed feelings over the 2x20mins races. It worked really well, and was good to have a re-run against the same competition in the afternoon having a feeling for their fitness. And it did seem to lead to a better social event chatting between runs. But it does make for more challenging racing - I missed my train in the melee of the start of the 2nd race and it took 2 of my 7 laps to chase them down... The short format does mean that higher level of effort can be put in tho. I did prefer this format to the sprints/TTs that we've done previously and it seemed to be less messing about than the more unusual formats. Yeah, chuck it in for an event next year but not to the exclusion of some good longer runs too! ------------- -- Rob, Westcountry Recumbents http://www.wrhpv.com http://mullimages.com http://glydearoundbritain.blogspot.com |
Posted By: MartinQS
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 7:54pm
| My first visit to Darley Moor today just as a spectator this time i was pleased to see the club at work I don`t know if any of you guys noticed i was taking quite a few shots (as i used to be a wedding photographer) Ive got some great action shots of the event and hope to post them soon. |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 8:17pm
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Thanks to all the organisers - A great day's racing.
Bike was great...
I was very pleased to stay upright and glad I didn't have the top on when I got the bomb door string tangled at the end of race 2 and couldn't open the doors... Luckily I was able to get my feet outside the nosecone.Loose string now taped up and valuable lesson learned!!
All I need now is to find some confidence in the corners...  ------------- |
Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 8:31pm
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A big thank you to Fards and Barney for organisating, to gNick for looking after the timing system and to everybody else who helped out to make it a very enjoyable day. I agree with previous comments about getting a variety of racing (except drags: I hate them!). Apologies to anyone I may have inconvenienced with my bl++dy awful cornering. At least I didn't get in the way by falling off this time. Finally, get well soon, Alan. ------------- Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer |
Posted By: Yanto63
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 8:35pm
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yes a grand day out, i loved the two short races!!!
thanks to Nick, Barney and Ian! ------------- Ian |
Posted By: jes@gcre
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 9:49pm
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Was a fun day.
2 short races = much better training for pedal car racing where we each tend to do 3 x 30 minute stints during a 6 hour race so it suited us down to the ground.
Also nice to see that we are now able to mix it to a certain extent in the "fast" race - much progress from 3 or 4 years ago even.
All in all, it was a very relaxed and very nice way to spend a Sunday. ------------- Racing is life... Anything which happens before or afterwards is just standing around waiting to race.... |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 9:55pm
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Great to see some pedal cars there... I'm sure you'd love Hillingdon...
Good surface and a wicked downhill hairpin that you have to carry speed through because it's followd by a short sharp incline... ------------- |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 10:10pm
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I echo thanks for a good event. I've been feeling a bit miserable and it quite cheered me up. gNick and Barney were particularly sterling. Results on race day! I usually prefer longer races, but they were just long enough! (sorry Jon). Isn't the view lovely going anti-clock!
Did we used to have an organisators guide? There are quite a few easy tasks which can be delegated, if the organisators are reminded. Maybe the sign on and input can be quicker with more people. gNick and Barney were stuck with lots of inputting after everyone signed on and got their tags. If the tasks can proceed in parallel, it could be done faster overall, but that might need at least 1 extra person.
The loop needs to go down and be tested. It could be my fault the loop battery was dead, but whatever, a spare battery for each system would not hurt. I brought a fairly hefty rechargeable from the sprint system. I intended it to run the PC if we didn't have power, but it turned out useful.
Is there a reason we can't standardise our DC connectors? I thought I had resolved the power shortage, but the plug didn't fit.
Good day and a few more lessons learned. It wouldn't have been the same with a deluge or heatwave, but then you adapt to the conditions. Congrats to all. Many fine rides. No road rash? I noticed Fiona was bandaged. Did you have to practice in the absence of other victims?
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Posted By: Gerry
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 10:10pm
| I'd like to thank the organisers, for a brilliant days racing, probably one of the best days racing I've ever had. The two short race format does make it much more exciting, after powering away from you fellow riders in the train at the finish is satifying but by no means cut and dry as you have to do it again. Hard work but brilliant |
Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 10:15pm
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we very nearly had the results up before you lot even got home, but there was a gremlin interfering, so you'll have to wait. overall the 2nd races looked to be repeat performances of the first race, with slightly slower speeds.
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Posted By: LeeW
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 10:17pm
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Another thanks for a great race, was just a shame there was no slash and thus I was rather lonely most of the time way out in front with no-one to chase. That hairpin seemed more vicious than I remember it being and I was slower round it going cw rather than ccw, dunno why. ------------- Current fleet: Milan SL MK2 #027, Fujin SL II, Beany! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 10:33pm
I think that corner closes in going CW. I seem take a very different line from others in my race, maybe going back to riding it faired. I stay very wide and late. As soon as I turn in I'm on full power and accelerating out. Seems to work . I did a warmdown lap and nearly ran out of road.
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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 10:37pm
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Glad it wasn't just me that really struggled with that corner CW!!
I never did find a line through there... just went very slow and wide, and nearly ran onto the grass...
After the race I went round for fun on the Kingcycle and went through the hairpin faster than I'd been going through on the Streamliner!! ------------- |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 10:40pm
From my view, the chain loss on the last lap was rather too exciting. Can you plan it a bit better next time?
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Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 10:40pm
A spare battery still suffers from the same problem (i.e. if it is not charged it is useless) I suggest that it would be useful to make a spare battery out of AA batteries in a battery holder. That way we can keep a pack of batteries in the case (they have a long shelf life). Also if necessary we could rush out and buy some locally. Standardising on power plugs is a good idea (at least all of them at the same voltage). We should look at doing that. ------------- Kevin Jenkins Windcheetah |
Posted By: gNick
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 10:42pm
Finally after being given a hard time by my computer, here are the provisional results:-
------------- gNick "I'm afraid it's definite, Mrs Banker - your son has bicycles" |
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 10:50pm
I have a brick of hefty non-rechargeables. Not sure quite how many. I'll have a look. I certainly charged the loop battery at least once, but I might not have topped it up.
Our experience suggests there could be some leakage which is trashing batteries. We'll see if gNick can charge it.
Could we buy a cheap car battery to power the PC when there is no mains power? It's probably the cheapest way to buy lots of capacity.
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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 11:02pm
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Only obvious mistake in the results is that Neil was on a Kingcycle and not in a pedal car... Good to see him racing!!------------- |
Posted By: gNick
Date Posted: 22 August 2010 at 11:23pm
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I had to leave something for you to find...
------------- gNick "I'm afraid it's definite, Mrs Banker - your son has bicycles" |
Posted By: kit wolf
Date Posted: 23 August 2010 at 1:35am
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Thanks to Gnick and Jon for doing the timing system. I hope it was less painful this time, Jon? What exactly was the problem re. the loop driver? We've had flat batteries before, which I always ascribed to them not being turned off in storage? I thought the battery and the timing loop were stored separately so I don't see how this can be? The loop should draw 80-100 milliamps as I recall so there's really no reason even a partly charged battery shouldn't last a few short races. Incidentally, we should have a few spare leads of various descriptions. Including a lead that plugs into a cigarette lighter in a car, for just such eventualities. As well as a redundant loop driver circuit and a redundant loop. Regarding commonality of plugs... I did gradually change the plugs because of the risk of intermittent faults if you use the plug with the large hole with the socket with the small pin. They make enough contact to convince you that they're working, but not enough to be reliable. I don't know how much we can do to mitigate against failing to charge the loop-driver battery. SLA batteries do self-discharge significantly but shouldn't do so over the course of a week or two. They don't like long-term storage either. Nick has mooted Lithium batteries and I agree they could make a good alternative, but they're not quite as 'mainstream' and need specialised chargers and some types make the most spectacular fireballs when things go wrong. Batteries are my least favourite electronic components by quite a margin. I joked about solar cells after the last race, but I'm beginning to think they might actually be a good idea. The way we're getting through batteries, they may even work out cheaper. Kit |
Posted By: Rob
Date Posted: 23 August 2010 at 6:57am
Thanks for the workout Jes - Racing is much more fun when there is some pressure!!! ------------- -- Rob, Westcountry Recumbents http://www.wrhpv.com http://mullimages.com http://glydearoundbritain.blogspot.com |
Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 23 August 2010 at 9:05am
------------- Kevin Jenkins Windcheetah |
Posted By: Hadden
Date Posted: 23 August 2010 at 9:16am
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Thanks everyone for a great days racing. I seem to be getting good on the cornering now. Had a great battle with Ian Fardoe on the last lap of the second race. ------------- Simon Sanderson. |
Posted By: ian65r
Date Posted: 23 August 2010 at 10:13am
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Thanks for a great day and for putting me in the fast race Round 2 race 2, I am sure Gerry’s front went across the line well in front of mine, may be his sensor was on the rear of his kingscycle? Ian |
Posted By: GeoffBird
Date Posted: 23 August 2010 at 11:48am
ian65r wrote: "Thanks for a great day and for putting me in the fast race  "Well, you didn't come last by a long chalk Ian! Not sure it's a good idea to sell you a low-racer - you're too quick. And you managed to lose the sprint despite having me as a lead-out man Seriously, the tags aren't accurate enough to decide a photo-finish - that should be picked up by recording the finish order. Thank you for your honesty. ------------- Right Time - Right Place - Wrong Speed |
Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 23 August 2010 at 1:30pm
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ian, if you look at the results you can clearly see you would have been bored silly in the slow race, having been a lap up on the others.. Much more fun to go around in a group unfortunately had a look at the sunglasses camera today, didnt record so there's no footage of you and gerrys sprint from that POV. Simon you gave me a real shock when you came alongside me on that last lap, I was just beginning to wind down when you came past as I'd watched Claire & Ian P disappear on the back straight. was good to have someone to sprint against :D
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Posted By: Yowie
Date Posted: 23 August 2010 at 1:50pm
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Posted By: BarneyH
Date Posted: 23 August 2010 at 2:56pm
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Glad to see the format has gone down well.
Even though I proposed the format for this event I'm in agreement with the other posters that multiple short races are probably only suitable as a format once a year mixed in with other longer / shorter / sprints / time trials formats to keep interest for all.
As a daft suggestion anybody up for 3 x 20mins at some point next year?????
On a separate note I'll post elsewhere a question on timing.
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