First race of the season!
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Topic: First race of the season!
Posted By: KeithD
Subject: First race of the season!
Date Posted: 30 March 2012 at 8:01pm
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The first stage of the BHPC 2012 Championship takes place this Sunday April 1st (yeah I know - it wasn't me who chose the date!) at the http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=51.512896,-0.399864&spn=0.006583,0.014741&t=h&z=16" rel="nofollow - Hillingdon circuit in West London. All are welcome to come along - members and non-members, riders and spectators. The schedule for the day is: 09.00 track open for try outs and practice 09:15 sign-on opens 11.30 race 1 - 20 minutes +1 for slower riders clockwise 12.15 race 2 - 20 minutes +1 for faster riders clockwise 13.00 opportunity for World Championship team to promote their event 13.30 race 3 - 60 minutes +1 for slower riders anti-clockwise 15.00 race 4 - 60 minutes +1 for faster riders anti-clockwise 16.20 - home time (The points will be split 1:3) The timing will be done manually, so It is also important that your HPV is clearly numbered. If you have not raced before, we will issue you with number stickers to attach to your vehicle. If you can come along with a family member or friend to count your laps this will assist in the smooth running of the day. Pens, paper and nice spectator-friendly weather will be provided. If you are racing, don't forget to bring a helmet and chain ring guard. If you've got elbow pads, bring them too (if not, I'm sure you'll be able to borrow a pair for your races). If you've not raced before, a quick read of http://www.bhpc.org.uk/rules-and-classes.aspx" rel="nofollow - this page is very useful. There's no need to memorise it - there'll be plenty of people there to help out. It's a full day, so it is important that we are all ready on time. There are no penalties for being late to start a race - you'll just end up covering a shorter distance in the same time. Look forward to seeing you all on Sunday! Keith Davis |
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Posted By: martinbguk
Date Posted: 31 March 2012 at 11:41pm
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Good luck to everyone taking part in the first race. I was planning on being there to race but circumstances have overtaken me (like many of you do) again!  I particularly wanted to see the new wobbly bob... Martin BG Race 59 ------------- HRSO2 No 59 www.mbg-recumbent-racing.blogspot.com |
Posted By: blogwat
Date Posted: 01 April 2012 at 9:47am
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Hi Folks
good luck for today and take plenty photo's
Jeff. ------------- when your up to your waist in aligators they forget to tell you you've got to clear the swamp |
Posted By: tosgh
Date Posted: 01 April 2012 at 7:31pm
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Well done Keith and all who helped in what turned out a lovely day weather wise but full of incidents first aid wise. ------------- weight is everything |
Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 02 April 2012 at 9:54am
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Thanks to Keith, also Heather, Twed and Kevin for all the organisatorial efforts.
And, should any reminder be needed, please, please, not only buy or otherwise obtain a pair of elbow guards but WEAR THEM!
I wore elbow guards for about 6 years before I ever landed on them. When eventually I had a crash in which they were needed, they saved me from some very serious injuries indeed. ------------- Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer |
Posted By: Warekiwi
Date Posted: 02 April 2012 at 2:49pm
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If anyone is interested- a little bit of video from the meeting! http://youtu.be/fR98vAXjvKk" rel="nofollow - http://youtu.be/fR98vAXjvKk
Enjoy- ------------- QuattroVelo #13 (2016)now eQV! Snoek#18 Too tight! Brompton P6- for shoppping! Vitus Escarpe eMTB for off-road fun. |
Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 02 April 2012 at 6:25pm
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I have in my posession a pair of black gloves - knitted, with grippy patches on the fingers - and a pair of sunglasses - silver/grey plastic frames - that were left outside the clubhouse at Hillingdon.
Let me know if they're yours. ------------- Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer |
Posted By: blogwat
Date Posted: 02 April 2012 at 7:12pm
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any photo's yet folks , would like to see some of the new modifications and new riders I know it's a bit soon but !.
Jeff. ------------- when your up to your waist in aligators they forget to tell you you've got to clear the swamp |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 02 April 2012 at 7:20pm
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I think we should make elnbow guards compulsory for anybody on an unfaired bike... I'll propose it at the AGM if nobody else does. ------------- |
Posted By: Yanto
Date Posted: 02 April 2012 at 8:02pm
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well i had an exciting 10 minutes or so until it all went wrong!! Also others please note; do not, i repeat do not put hot thin fibreglass bodywork in a hot car, then leave it in the car in the hot sun for another few hrs next day, it will come out of car set in the shape in which it was left resting!! Needless to say I am now not racing again this year, not in extremely Wobbly Bob anyway, well that was a very expensive 10 minutes racing, works out at £540/hr! I'm not happy
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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 02 April 2012 at 8:06pm
Sorry to hear that Ian... Rotten luck...  ------------- |
Posted By: Wyndrake
Date Posted: 02 April 2012 at 8:31pm
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Ian, Sorry to learn of your woes. How about borrowing my Sunrider (Sram Dual Drive set up) for a season? You may not earn too many pointst due to its weight, but will build up your muscles for 2013! It's a real offer, as I shan't be using it this year, as I'm grounded for a few months following surgery and the best I'll achieve is a couple of tentative rides on the Vortex towards the end of the season. It even has its own trailer for transportation. |
Posted By: LeeW
Date Posted: 02 April 2012 at 9:01pm
Do you still have the old bob body? Why not race your Quest XS?? Or make a coroplast fairing for bob?? Or is the chassis bent too? You may find this vid intresting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_L_EMVuoPo&list=UURmVCDHIYxwva_jv3gbn-YA&index=1&feature=plcp If you don't have time to build a correx fairing then I maybe able to knock you up something in a few days for a few nice crisp £20 notes. ------------- Current fleet: Milan SL MK2 #027, Fujin SL II, Beany! |
Yanto wrote:Posted By: Yanto
Date Posted: 02 April 2012 at 9:18pm
| Thanks for the offer Lee. Old body doesn't exist any more (i should have kept it, but no space). I probably will race the new Quest, i wasn't intending to, but at least there is something from May onwards. I will mull the current body problem over, maybe make another, but might try heating and flattening the affected bits first if succesful it will be repainted white and carried on the roof rack! |
Posted By: KeithD
Date Posted: 02 April 2012 at 11:19pm
These photos are taken from the starts of the two 1 hour races: http://www.flickr.com/photos/42429138@N05/sets/72157629361611536/with/6893658048/www.flickr.com/photos/42429138@N05/sets/72157629361611536/with/6893658048/" rel="nofollow - http://www.flickr.com/photos/42429138@N05/sets/72157629361611536/with/6893658048/ They were taken from a video which is why the quality isn't so sharp. I'm sure there'll be others with better photos. |
Posted By: blogwat
Date Posted: 03 April 2012 at 10:08am
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Hi Keith
thanks for the photo's loos like a few new mods have been done to some machines and great photo of the dragonfly , sorry to hear about Ian's mishap lesson learned for next time maybe.
Jeff. ------------- when your up to your waist in aligators they forget to tell you you've got to clear the swamp |
Posted By: NickM
Date Posted: 03 April 2012 at 10:49am
Thanks  The works Beano looks more scruffy every year, but it doesn't seem to get any slower... |
Posted By: sam knight
Date Posted: 09 April 2012 at 12:51pm
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Came along to watch the racing the other weekend, with my trusty but very slow Yuba Mundo cargo bike and my 'not in the rule book' dog Wilma the Westie. I had a great time; talked to a lot of you, some about the machines, some about the dog (typical), video'd some of the racing and then left thinking......I want to race, it looks so much fun..... Now through the Joys of ebay I own a slightly ropey (we all need to start somewhere) trike....am a member of the club have fashioned a chainring protector, dug out my old elbow guards (sadly after my first crash) and am looking forward to racing with you all at Castle Combe (I will be the one whose legs still need to get used the the laid back position)! See you all at the end of the month.......
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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 09 April 2012 at 12:56pm
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Hi Sam,
I've just changed your forum status to reflect the fact that you are now a club member... You should be able to see the "Members Only" bits of the forum now...
Make sure somebody shows you the secret handshake at Castle Coombe...
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Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 09 April 2012 at 7:51pm
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Sam Glad to hear you are joining (sorry about the rule book bit but ....) Hope you enjoy Castle Combe and the rest of the season come to that. ------------- Kevin Jenkins Windcheetah |
Posted By: Yanto
Date Posted: 09 April 2012 at 8:04pm
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Hello Sam, was good to see you and Wilma! It will also be good to see you at CC, that was my first race 3yrs ago! Don't let CC put you off racing, I say that because it might rain, and it might be windy, and you might get fed up, best thing is try to stay with somebody to give the race a bit of "spice"! Big circuits can be lonely as we become spread out! Ian
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Posted By: sam knight
Date Posted: 10 April 2012 at 7:18am
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Thanks for the welcome guys....and thanks for the advice regarding trying to stick with someone on the big circuit..will do my best...I am expecting the first few races to hurt....So far my training consists of riding up Kop hill (site of the famous car hill climb) 7 minutes 30 secs up....and then scaring myself silly on the descent (55 seconds) See you all soon!
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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 10 April 2012 at 7:33am
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Oh No!!!
You obviously didn't read BHPC Rule number 1 Sam...
Using the word "Tr*&ning" is punishable by having to recite the instructions for the timing system 100 times backwards in Chinese.
Around here "Training" is what Dave Tigwell does to get to races... He puts his bike on a train and then sits down with a Pasty....
I tend to agree with Ian about Castle Coombe.... but it is a LOT better if it's run the "wrong" way round... That way the chicane (downhill) gives us ...er... less fast riders something to look forward to every 10 minutes or so...
Usualy practice is to find the organiser and shout "Anticlockwise" until he says that's what he was going to do anyway...
By the way, do we have an organiser for Castle Coombe yet?? ------------- |
Posted By: blogwat
Date Posted: 10 April 2012 at 8:41am
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Hi Sam
welcome to the club and hope you enjoy the racing try if you can get to the world champioships at fowlmead it will be a great experience , I will probably catch up with you sometime in the season and when I race again you wont be at the back
 . good luckJeff. ------------- when your up to your waist in aligators they forget to tell you you've got to clear the swamp |
Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 11 April 2012 at 8:21am
Posted the results in a more obscure way - the results are linked from the Events page directly - normal service will be resumed as soon as possible  ------------- Kevin Jenkins Windcheetah |
Posted By: liggertoy
Date Posted: 11 April 2012 at 7:46pm
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We had a nice day on the racetrack in Hillingdon. My wife has a few pictures taken at this site you can find them http://sports.webshots.com/album/582631365rrJXHu?vhost=sports" rel="nofollow - http://sports.webshots.com/album/582631365rrJXHu?vhost=sports Rudi
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Posted By: KeithD
Date Posted: 14 April 2012 at 11:19pm
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The results are finally up is the usual place: http://www.bhpc.org.uk/2012-race-results.aspx" rel="nofollow - http://www.bhpc.org.uk/2012-race-results.aspx Well done to the winners: Steve Slade Open Claire King Ladies Sarah Tweddle Junior Erik Marynissen Partly-Faired & UnFaired (and Street & Sports) Fiona Grove Ladies Part Faired Rob Hague Faired Multitrack John Lucian Multitrack and a big thanks to those who helped out - especially: Kevin for sign-on and processing the results Fiona for taking the membership Heather and Andrew for setting up the video Fiona and Heather for patching up and being Master Lap Counters Gary, John, Rob for marshaling Derrick for running the faster races, so I could take part. and everyone else who helped out on the line and with the lap counting. See you all at Castle Coombe! |
Posted By: Yanto
Date Posted: 15 April 2012 at 7:27am
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Hi Keith, i'm asking this in public rather as a PM as other people may be interested in the way points are calculated. I was awarded 148 points yet i was 7th in classs (ok last in class), but shouldn't 7th place get more points? I feel this may be crucial come Hillingdon 2 !!! Cheers
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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 15 April 2012 at 7:48am
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Well done to all involved! Is a Challenge Jester really Sports Class?? If so that's the end of Sports Class (entry level...) I think. ------------- |
Posted By: KeithD
Date Posted: 15 April 2012 at 8:57am
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Hmmm, 148 points does seem to be a bit mean for a day's overall placing of 7th in the Multi-track Faired class! But he didn't get 148 points for being seventh - he was seventh because he got 148 points. A day's points are points are calculated on the placing in each race, and added together based on the point allocation for each race. In this case it was 1:3, or the points awarded in the first race made up 25% of the final score, and the points awarded in the second race made up 75% of the final score. In Ian's case the points awarded reflect that, unfortunately, he had a perfect storm of bad luck: >Only took part in one race, >This race only constituted 25% of the overall score >He (I gather through no fault of his own) did not finish this race. For those who are not aware, for each class in race the points awarded are 1000 for first place and for everyone else, 90% of the points awarded to the rider in front, ie: 1st: 1000 2nd: 900 3rd: 810 4th: 729 5th: 656 6th: 590 : The non-linearness ensures that a higher placing within a race carries more weight than consistency - eg a first and third is better than two second placings. Consistency is awarded by taking part in more races, which brings us back to Ian's example. In his first race (20min+1 lap faster) he was 4th rider in Mf class. The other race in the same round (the slower one) had 2 riders who were ahead of him (ie had a higher mph). This put him into 6th place in the Mf class in the first round, so giving him 590 points. He did not take part in the longer race, so did not gain any points for this. So his final score for the day in the Mf class is: 590.49 * 25% + 0 * 75% = 147.6, rounded to 148. Simples! |
Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 15 April 2012 at 9:00pm
Keith did ask me about that by email shortly after the event, and I said it (and the Marini) wouldn't be. ------------- Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 15 April 2012 at 9:04pm
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Thanks Adrian,
I think including them would effectively mean that most of those currently competing in unfaired or part-faired should also be included... And that really wouldn't leave Sports or Street viable as seperate classes... ------------- |
Posted By: Yanto
Date Posted: 15 April 2012 at 9:42pm
he sees, we see, they see, i see!
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Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 15 April 2012 at 10:32pm
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Updated the classes and posted the results again. ------------- Kevin Jenkins Windcheetah |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 15 April 2012 at 10:40pm
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Many thanks Kevin! There may well be a strong argument for scrapping Sports/Street altogether at some point... ------------- |
Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 15 April 2012 at 10:59pm
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So was suggesting to Adrian - maybe you are not entered into these classes unless you request it, rather that trying to work it out on the bike. So when someone comes in to register they will get entered into the unfaired/etc and only in Sports/Street if requested. The alternative is to bring your bike with you (in race trim) when registering ------------- Kevin Jenkins Windcheetah |