Scunthorpe 20th May
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Topic: Scunthorpe 20th May
Posted By: Adrian Setter
Subject: Scunthorpe 20th May
Date Posted: 02 May 2012 at 1:27pm
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A thread for all things related to this event.
Location details, etc. are linked from the http://www.bhpc.org.uk/1events.aspx" rel="nofollow - Events page
But most important of all, http://forum.bhpc.org.uk/race-volunters_topic4527_page2.html" rel="nofollow - nobody has yet volunteered as Organisator(s). Your club and your racing needs YOU! ------------- Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer |
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Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 02 May 2012 at 6:56pm
if I offer it will rain 
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Posted By: martinbguk
Date Posted: 02 May 2012 at 8:19pm
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I'll do it. Nothing else on the horizon for that weekend. Can you pm me a list of duties so that I can get my head round it? Martin ------------- HRSO2 No 59 www.mbg-recumbent-racing.blogspot.com |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 02 May 2012 at 9:29pm
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martinbguk wrote:Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 04 May 2012 at 1:33pm
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Thanks, Martin!
I'll send a PM with duties, but may not get chance to do that until after the weekend
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Posted By: SteveArmstrong
Date Posted: 04 May 2012 at 5:42pm
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I'm happy to jump in as an assistant though it will be my first time at a race. I imagine if I can turn up and race, I can turn up and assist. Is there time to race and assist? Steve ------------- When you pull the cats tail, you get the whole cat. |
Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 04 May 2012 at 6:27pm
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Thanks, Steve!
Regular racers who don't help with organising - be shamed!!
Yes, there is time to organisate/assist. If you and Martin both get assigned to the same heat, some extra assistants will need roping in to start the race and call the finish, but that's never a problem. ------------- Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer |
Posted By: Yanto
Date Posted: 04 May 2012 at 7:54pm
| Some people are born to lead, most are born to follow, i know which portion i fall into and i'm not ashamed to say it! |
Posted By: SteveArmstrong
Date Posted: 04 May 2012 at 8:16pm
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Great. What time do the gates open? (Excepting a repeat of last year's hunt the thimble).
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Posted By: martinbguk
Date Posted: 05 May 2012 at 9:18am
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Steve, How quick are you (average speed)? Sign on normally starts at 10am I seem to remember so the gates should be open a little before that. What sort of racing are people after this time out? Time trial? 9 hour race ?Devil? MBG ------------- HRSO2 No 59 www.mbg-recumbent-racing.blogspot.com |
Posted By: Yanto
Date Posted: 05 May 2012 at 8:08pm
| Martin, going on last outing it might pay to wait until the day before deciding what kind of race, we might have to clear the track of snow! At least there shouldn't be any arguements about which way is best !! |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 05 May 2012 at 8:17pm
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That's a very good point and if the forecast is terrible it might be worth checking with the track... Welwyn don't like their velodrome being used in the wet but I think the banking there is steeper (only been to Scunthorpe once, the first time BHPC went there and struggling to remember)... ------------- |
Posted By: SteveArmstrong
Date Posted: 06 May 2012 at 10:13pm
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Martin, I've just done 45mins round Scunthorpe on the turbo trainer courtesy of what appears to be your youtube video  . As to how fast, I seemed to manage the same number of laps as you did. Slight weirdness aside, it did make training more interesting (plus I know the track really well now). I need batteries for my speedometer, so I'll see about getting out some time in the week and seeing my average over 45min, but I wouldn't expect any fireworks.I'll aim to get down to the track for about 9.45 then. Steve ------------- When you pull the cats tail, you get the whole cat. |
Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 14 May 2012 at 1:55pm
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Opening Time We officially have access to the park and track from 10.00. In practice, the gates should be opened a little (around 15 minutes) before then. They're definitely expecting us!------------- Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer |
Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 14 May 2012 at 1:55pm
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First Aider
Is anyone attending who is a first-aider? ------------- Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer |
Posted By: Wyndrake
Date Posted: 14 May 2012 at 6:59pm
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There is a fair chance of a press presence at Scunthorpe .... the regional papers have shown interest in BHPC and in Lee as the local 2012 World Champ contender, in particular. Hope you have a good day. I'll be thinking of you as I grind away on my turbo t******! Alan B. |
Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 14 May 2012 at 9:00pm
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Current plan is that I'm going Adrian, I'm first aider. Current Weather forecast suggests CastleCombe redux.. albeit its slightly weaker follow up. gusting 30mph winds, light to moderate rain and 6c windchill, which sounds positively balmy compared to wiltshire :D (the forecast has also improved over the last couple of days). http://www.netweather.tv/index.cgi?action=uk7dayx7;page=7;ct=25372~Scunthorpe;sess=#forecast At least its fairly sheltered at Quibell park. %20" rel="nofollow - |
Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 15 May 2012 at 12:39pm
 (for being a first-aider, not for the weather forecast!)
Fards' link is currently showing Sunday in Scunthorpe as light winds, no rain and mostly sunny, by the way... ------------- Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer |
Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 15 May 2012 at 2:59pm
excellent, I said it was improving as it progressed :D 
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Posted By: martinbguk
Date Posted: 15 May 2012 at 8:40pm
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As always with the weather it can easily snow at this time of year!!!! ------------- HRSO2 No 59 www.mbg-recumbent-racing.blogspot.com |
Posted By: Yanto
Date Posted: 15 May 2012 at 8:48pm
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Nothing to do with Scunthorpe or racing, but apparently it was snowing in Stafford today, but that report came from a woman, so it was probably hail! I lived on the west coast of scotland where we had 4" of snow - in JUNE!!!! |
Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 15 May 2012 at 10:48pm
it was snowing in Wolverhampton at 8am (we didn't get any here, being too far away and too low down) 
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Posted By: SteveArmstrong
Date Posted: 16 May 2012 at 4:25pm
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Any idea what time festivities will likely finish on Sunday? Netweather is now showing rain for Sunday, with a friendly orange torrential around 1 o'clock. But the metoffice seem to disagree, hooray! Only 20% chance of rain. Oh the black art that is weather forecasting. ------------- When you pull the cats tail, you get the whole cat. |
Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 16 May 2012 at 4:41pm
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We need to be getting off the site by about 4, so finish racing about 3.30 (I PM'd this to Martin a couple of days ago) ------------- Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer |
Posted By: SteveArmstrong
Date Posted: 16 May 2012 at 6:36pm
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Thanks, Adrian. ------------- When you pull the cats tail, you get the whole cat. |
Posted By: Yanto
Date Posted: 17 May 2012 at 6:33pm
Just seen BBC forecast for Sunday: cold, rain and gusty NE wind - yeah!!!  I mean; oh no!!!!!  Martin do you know what race format will be?
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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 17 May 2012 at 10:06pm
25m drag race heading SW??  ------------- |
Posted By: martinbguk
Date Posted: 17 May 2012 at 10:17pm
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After some careful consideration I'm thinking 1Km TT followed by the usual slow / fast 40 minutes plus 1 or 2 laps Timing wise that should see us done by just after 3pm I am still open to suggestions (bribes) but a standing hill start straight up the banking might cause much laughter. ------------- HRSO2 No 59 www.mbg-recumbent-racing.blogspot.com |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 17 May 2012 at 10:19pm
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All good with me - As always whoever steps up to organise gets to choose the race format...
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Posted By: martinbguk
Date Posted: 17 May 2012 at 10:28pm
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I did also consider (in a moment of madness) a handicapped start, calculated from the TT times. Have we ever done that? Sandbagging by Slash not allowed. ------------- HRSO2 No 59 www.mbg-recumbent-racing.blogspot.com |
Posted By: Yanto
Date Posted: 18 May 2012 at 9:51am
Dunno? But not trying too hard is easily done.........................
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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 18 May 2012 at 9:54am
You've seen me race then...  ------------- |
Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 18 May 2012 at 12:36pm
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cool rain and wind.... perfect in the right machine!:-) reminds me of CC (-; |
Posted By: Yanto
Date Posted: 18 May 2012 at 1:35pm
| Latest Met Office shows 11 deg C, dry cloudy with a 13mph NNE, no gusts. Balmy by CC standards!! looks like peeps on 2 wheels will be just fine!!! |
Posted By: SteveArmstrong
Date Posted: 18 May 2012 at 2:03pm
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Well, like the old adage says, there's no such thing as bad weather, only the wrong HPV. ------------- When you pull the cats tail, you get the whole cat. |
Posted By: HeatherW
Date Posted: 18 May 2012 at 5:45pm
| May I please politely request that there is a Devil at the end of the racing? My daughter and I are coming from miles and miles away, and that's our favourite bit!! |
Posted By: martinbguk
Date Posted: 19 May 2012 at 10:47am
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Heather I can be persuaded to shuffle the times to suit a devil. Come and see me as soon as you get there, potentially with a kit kat chunkey bribe (only joking) and we can discuss it. Martin ------------- HRSO2 No 59 www.mbg-recumbent-racing.blogspot.com |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 19 May 2012 at 10:52am
Don't sell yourself too cheap Martin - The going rate for a Devil is usually two Kit Kats and a Curly Wurly....  ------------- |
Posted By: martinbguk
Date Posted: 19 May 2012 at 11:22am
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Alan, You've seen my bike... I'm definitely at the cheap end of the market ;-) ------------- HRSO2 No 59 www.mbg-recumbent-racing.blogspot.com |
Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 19 May 2012 at 12:17pm
| i got proper ripped of at CC then.... |
Posted By: Wyndrake
Date Posted: 19 May 2012 at 8:55pm
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The Grimsby / Scunthorpe Telegraph photographer has gone sick. Can anyone taking photos at Scunthorpe send me an array of action pics suitable for repro. JPG's preferred: please send to my studio email: editor.wyndrake at btconnect.com. Many thanks. Alan Braley |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 19 May 2012 at 9:59pm
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I'm going to be on the Kingcycle... One of the shiny new Stelvios I was fitting to the Hurricane earlier had a dirty great moulding defect... Bah!
Ta very much St John's Street Cycles... ------------- |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 20 May 2012 at 8:28pm
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Many thanks to Martin and everybody else who helped out with organising... A great day's racing and a new personal best spectacular crash from Lee! I didn't see the red flag - All I saw was Barney's tail-fairing slowing down in front of me at an alarming rate... ------------- |
Posted By: LeeW
Date Posted: 20 May 2012 at 9:02pm
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Yep, I'm getting very good at crashing now ------------- Current fleet: Milan SL MK2 #027, Fujin SL II, Beany! |
Posted By: blogwat
Date Posted: 21 May 2012 at 1:18pm
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Hi Folks
thanks for a great day out nice to see everyone again and watch you suffer
here are some photo's feel free to copy any you want http://www.flickr.com/photos/recumbents/" rel="nofollow - http://www.flickr.com/photos/recumbents/ . Jeff. ------------- when your up to your waist in aligators they forget to tell you you've got to clear the swamp |
Posted By: LeeW
Date Posted: 21 May 2012 at 6:28pm
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Some nice pictures, intresting to see myself on my side from outside. Could you make them CC rather than all rights reserved? ------------- Current fleet: Milan SL MK2 #027, Fujin SL II, Beany! |
Posted By: Yanto
Date Posted: 21 May 2012 at 6:59pm
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Cracking pics! Best ones are the three speedsters bearing on down on Fionna !!!!!! Good reaction shot of Lee on his side head first!!!
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Posted By: GeoffBird
Date Posted: 21 May 2012 at 7:10pm
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Lee, if you right click on the images and click medium it will then display a pic you can 'save as'. Great pictures Jeff - much better than mine - could you send some to Fraser to go with my article please? ------------- Right Time - Right Place - Wrong Speed |
Posted By: Wyndrake
Date Posted: 21 May 2012 at 7:22pm
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Further to my earlier post re Scunthorpe Press coverage, could any (other than blogwat) action pics be sent to me at editor.wyndrake@btconnect.com. Thanks....... Alan B. |
Posted By: blogwat
Date Posted: 21 May 2012 at 7:35pm
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hi Geoff
do you have fraser's email address so I can send him some photo's.
Thanks.
Jeff. ------------- when your up to your waist in aligators they forget to tell you you've got to clear the swamp |
Posted By: Yowie
Date Posted: 21 May 2012 at 9:37pm
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Regarding Lee's incident on Sunday which in no way advantaged me nor disadvantaged me:- I believed that the red flag was out because of the severity of Lee's accident (I didn't see it happen), therefore medical assistance needed safe unfettered access to Lee in the Beany. It didn't but it may have been necessary. Hard to say. The Beany wasn't an obstruction to the continuance of the race and accidents normally don't cause a default red flagging. In fact Steve said that he'd never seen a red flagging before. It would have been normal for a crashed rider to sit the rest of the race out, but entirely fair for one to rejoin the race as soon as they could possibly do so. On an alternative machine if required. Class issues to be resolved later. I think that that red flagging was a bit over-zealous on the part of the organiser, but its up to them and we did have a warning at least that a red flag was a possibility. |
Posted By: GeoffBird
Date Posted: 21 May 2012 at 10:54pm
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You make a reasonable point Howard, but you have to bear in mind that a streamliner spinning out of control at 40mph is a rather shocking sight for two people organising their first race - they made a commendably fast decision that may have erred on the side of caution, but I don't blame them for that - better to stay that side. As a club, the only thing we usually take really seriously is safety. They also had to deal with a slightly malfunctioning timing system and the complexities of running a devil. A bit of a baptism of fire! I thought they coped admirably. On a less contentious note: those who saw Miles Kingsbury's Quattro (4-wheeled velomobile) may like to read more about it here: http://kingcycle.blogspot.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - http://kingcycle.blogspot.co.uk/ Jeff - PM on it's way soon. Thanks. http://kingcycle.blogspot.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - ------------- Right Time - Right Place - Wrong Speed |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 21 May 2012 at 11:32pm
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I think we should generally try to avoid having 40MPH stramliners on the track at same time as 10MPH Juniors in the interests of safety.
It's very rare for a race to be stopped - the only other time I've seen it happen was at Shrewsbury when an accident left a rider on the track and unable to be moved immediately.
I think for our purposes a nice loud airhorn would be better and safer than a red flag (or possibly as well as). At the back of a group of four bikes I couldn't see the flag at all and very nearly crashed into the rider in front when he slowed down suddenly...
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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 21 May 2012 at 11:54pm
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Who is sorting out the Scunthorpe results? Do we have valid results from the timing system and/or video camera? ------------- |
Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 22 May 2012 at 12:01am
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video of the race as seen from the viewpoint of the quest sped up 4x. this is the full race (edited the stop out) comes in at just over 10 minutes. http://youtu.be/d69IeoqVJnw" rel="nofollow - http://youtu.be/d69IeoqVJnw will add some annotations at some point I really enjoyed racing, it was quite nice to have a mix of speeds, felt like I always had someone to chase down.. however I think everyone else should go out and do a big ride over some hills the day before to make it more even next time :D Re the flag. I didn't see it till I heard someone shout about it, too busy concentrating on catching that perry bloke. Even looking at it on the vid (and knowing it was there) it wasn't that easy to spot against the mix of red bike/jackets etc, milling around etc.. So maybe worth looking at something louder/brighter for next time, alans suggestion of an airhorn makes sense. That's something to learn for the worlds. |
Posted By: Yanto
Date Posted: 22 May 2012 at 8:29am
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Excellant video, love it at that speed, not boring!!!! I'm so glad you were absolutely knackered before the race, but it just shows how fit you really are! On the safety theme, a klaxon, hooter or whatever is no use to me, what hearing (don't race with aids in)i have is swamped by rattling body work, and the sound of chain and gears 10 inches fom my head! I don't hear a thing from the outside!!!! So a visual sign is essential.
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Posted By: Paul Goodwin
Date Posted: 22 May 2012 at 8:39am
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I've got to agree with Yanto, I don't race with my aids in either (sweat = hearing related doom). Admittedly there's no rattling bodywork around me so I can still hear some things, but a visual sign + horn strikes me as a plan. Redundancy and all.
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Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 22 May 2012 at 9:06am
I'm more than happy to look after videoing the races but I think the time has come to give up with the current hardware. The last I heard Martin was going to send the tag data file to Kevin for sorting out. |
Posted By: hotta
Date Posted: 22 May 2012 at 9:32am
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I have a video camera the club can have it's a d.a.t and works fine,also happy to film at races as well,good for backup if people don't mind. ------------- never stop it hurts less in the end |
Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 22 May 2012 at 9:54am
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Thanks Neil - this sounds potentially good. My experience with the existing camera was that you need a non-stop runtime of at least 2hrs 20mins (to cover Castle Combe), a total recording time of over 3 hours (with a battery change if necessary) and a frame rate of at least 25fps to separate close finishes. Something that still works in torrential rain would also be helpful. |
Posted By: hotta
Date Posted: 22 May 2012 at 10:51am
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The sonycam is good for 4 hours recording and can have the time running on the recording witch can be usefull aim shure,will bring to fowmead with me,if it's bad weather my sd hd recorder is good in the rain but we don't want that! ------------- never stop it hurts less in the end |
Posted By: Yowie
Date Posted: 22 May 2012 at 1:21pm
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Posted By: Yowie
Date Posted: 22 May 2012 at 1:33pm
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Back of the envelope check from my pit data show I may have been Slash lapped 5 times, but unlapped myself by him twice.. Nett 3 laps down on Slash. I think. Time to polish the bike while doing more thinking. |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 22 May 2012 at 3:36pm
Please bear in mind folks that Kevin has a lot on his plate at the minute getting things sorted for WC2012.
Martin/Kevin - Has this happened?
Do we have enough data from the tags?
If not and with no video we could be up poo creek without the necessary propulsion device...
If it helps at all I was on the same lap as Fiona and one lap down on Barney and John Lucian...
I think Slash may have just pipped me...
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Posted By: Yanto
Date Posted: 22 May 2012 at 3:45pm
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MF positions are dead easy, me, fards, miles... Doesn't matter about how many laps or speeds, we all know we did the best we could! As for "O" points, well yes we should get them, but i don't think any of us will be in the running for a podium place, or will we????????
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Posted By: gNick
Date Posted: 22 May 2012 at 8:44pm
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Martin, if Kevin is busy, I'll do the descrambling. I am quite practised in Kit's witchcraft. By the way for those who know him Kit is a dad, it's a boy, 3.3kg (7lb 4oz), no name at last communication. ------------- gNick "I'm afraid it's definite, Mrs Banker - your son has bicycles" |
Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 22 May 2012 at 8:53pm
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Posted By: martinbguk
Date Posted: 22 May 2012 at 9:00pm
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Nick Kevin won't be getting to it until the weekend. PM me your e mail address and I'll e mail you the data. We were counting how many laps Slash sat out vs the other streamliner and all the laps he sat out he recovered. MBG ------------- HRSO2 No 59 www.mbg-recumbent-racing.blogspot.com |
Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 22 May 2012 at 11:01pm
I don't agree it was over-zealous. Fortunately, Lee was uninjured, though there was no way Martin and Steve could have known that immediately after the crash. Even uninjured, extracting Lee from his machine at the foot of the banking could have been a hazard to Lee, helpers or passing riders. I really wouldn't want to think about the situation of tending to an injured rider in that position with a race carrying on. I do agree that it was the organisers that had to make the call. They have nothing but my undiluted thanks for being there, taking on the job of organising and making an appropriate decision in a pressure situation. This is not to say we should red-flag whenever anybody crashes (usually riders are able to clear themselves from the track more quickly than such a decision could be taken anyway) but it's appropriate where there is or may be a continuing hazard, as on Sunday or when Andy Forey crashed at Shrewsbury. ------------- Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer |
Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 22 May 2012 at 11:10pm
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Didn't see the incident - but in any case I think it is always the responsibility and up to the judgement of the organisor. It is better always to err on the safe side. As such we can argue over it but it is a bit like arguing about an off-side position. It is the organisor's choice and call. As racers it is ours to accept it regardless of what we feel. I think we have to congratulate Martin and Steve. Kevin On another tack - who has the laptop and can I have the sign-on program and the txt file with the tag data. ------------- Kevin Jenkins Windcheetah |
Posted By: LeeW
Date Posted: 22 May 2012 at 11:16pm
Errrr, what about me?? ------------- Current fleet: Milan SL MK2 #027, Fujin SL II, Beany! |
Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 22 May 2012 at 11:30pm
It went back to Bloxham in Geoff's ------------- Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer |
Posted By: Yanto
Date Posted: 22 May 2012 at 11:49pm
I think you were racing Beany weren't you, that was your race machine. You defaulted to another machine but you can't have points in that class! you get "O" points not "MF".
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Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 23 May 2012 at 8:42am
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fair point Yanto makes on class. whilst it might seem unfair as LW ran his main race in MF at registration it would have been O. gutted i missed the weekend but we had a bad case of d&v in the house everone got it :-( sound like i missed out ..... |
Posted By: SteveArmstrong
Date Posted: 23 May 2012 at 11:02am
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On Lee's crash, I really wasn't sure what to expect when we reached him. As soon as we had the top off, his main concern seemed to be getting to his Quest and rejoining the race. I have to admire his racing spirit, I think I'd have quite happily gone for a sit down and a cup of tea after a slide like that. It's a testament to how safe a well made streamliner can be, provided you don't hit anyone or anything else. It was an exciting last 5 minutes as we watched Slash put on an extra burst of speed to make up the laps lost from having to fix his chain. I was going to recommend watching Ian's sped up race footage with the Benny Hill theme playing in the background (it does work well). But since the annotations have gone up, it seems to me that something more epic maybe required, perhaps the theme from Requiem for a Dream or Gladiator. My thanks to those who guided me through the rudiments of the devil. Now I understand it, I can see the appeal. A great day out. Roll on the next race. ------------- When you pull the cats tail, you get the whole cat. |
Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 23 May 2012 at 1:54pm
Have you seen the Rob English slide in the Mango at battle mountain http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5Dapy1xUq0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5Dapy1xUq0 and until he hit a car parked on the side of the road at the end of the slide was fine (cut his nose from memory) ------------- Kevin Jenkins Windcheetah |
Posted By: SteveArmstrong
Date Posted: 24 May 2012 at 10:45am
Yes I had, in fact I was thinking about it after the race got started again, probably because up until that point it was the only streamliner I'd seen going over. It would make me think twice about running a full corex fairing without a roll cage. ------------- When you pull the cats tail, you get the whole cat. |
Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 24 May 2012 at 10:50am
There's a video somewhere of Lee crash-testing that arrangement, too ------------- Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer |
Posted By: SteveArmstrong
Date Posted: 24 May 2012 at 10:54am
I'd be interested to see that. ------------- When you pull the cats tail, you get the whole cat. |
Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 24 May 2012 at 1:06pm
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Very similar crash, except there was a fence involved.. Sure Lee will tell you how much damage he did soon enough, something to do with a cut on his arm from his camera battery pack (in the days before micro keyfob cameras) :D fairing fixed with some gaffer tape %20" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R63VjB1kFU and that's still my favourite racetrack :D |
Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 24 May 2012 at 1:22pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R63VjB1kFU" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R63VjB1kFU ------------- Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer |
Posted By: Yanto
Date Posted: 24 May 2012 at 7:01pm
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The actual fall looks fairly "easy" wrong word i know, but "gentle" doesn't seem right either, the fence hit however !!!!! Anyway, who is the nice slim young lady in white shorts at the beginning taking photo's of Lee eh? eh?
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Posted By: SteveArmstrong
Date Posted: 24 May 2012 at 8:50pm
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Given that I can only see a bit of the bike, the corex seems to come off fairly well. ------------- When you pull the cats tail, you get the whole cat. |
Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 27 May 2012 at 7:51pm
Having now got and analysed the tag data from Scunthorpe it looks as if the following riders stopped racing before the final flag in the second (30 mins) race:
In other news:
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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 27 May 2012 at 8:15pm
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Many thanks Andrew...
I don't remember any of the others failing to finish... There is video evidence of Fards doing the whole race.
Twed was a lap up on me and Fiona... (possibly two?)
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Posted By: Yanto
Date Posted: 27 May 2012 at 8:17pm
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Nope, i stopped AFTER the chequered flag with one maybe two wind down laps. Just had a look at Fards video where you can see me cross the line with the flag flying having just lapped Fards.
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Posted By: Yowie
Date Posted: 27 May 2012 at 10:43pm
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I got the chequered flag and went round for less than a lap of slowing down. I stopped before going over the line for any slowing down laps. I always try not to circulate after a race if I can avoid adding to the tag data unnecessarily. Hopefully by doing this, I make the post-race analysis easier!
Was it missed because I crossed the finish line at about 65mph? Thanks Andrew for doing the boring bit! |
Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 27 May 2012 at 11:23pm
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It should be possible to reconstruct all the missing stuff from Ian's onboard video, with a bit of ingenuity. I'll try and get it done before the end of the season ... Howard - your tag seems to have stopped recording about 11 minutes into the race, just as you were reaching cruising speed. Still, bear in mind that Slash recorded no laps at all. |
Posted By: Neil F
Date Posted: 28 May 2012 at 8:33am
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I was about 20 yards behind Adrian at the flag. Not sure where I was relative to Mike & Andrew but I had been lapped several (many) times. Hope this helps reconstruct things. Neil F |
Posted By: Neil F
Date Posted: 28 May 2012 at 8:47am
Could this be because I was 3/4 of a lap up on Adrian at the accident in Race 1 and then 20 yards behind at the end of Race 2? |
Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 28 May 2012 at 9:35am
It certainly does: Adrian's tag was OK so if you were on the same lap then I have your data too. In fact you and Adrian were about 50m ahead of me on the last lap - I was closing in slowly until you two had a sprint round the last bend. |
Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 28 May 2012 at 10:20am
And there was me thinking that you were 1/4 lap down... ------------- Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer |
Posted By: slasher
Date Posted: 28 May 2012 at 10:46am
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Would now be a good time to mention AMB Mylaps. Other timing systems are also available. ------------- Brought to you by the makers of Beano. |
Posted By: Yanto
Date Posted: 28 May 2012 at 10:56am
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I was going to say the same last night but daren't !!!
You're like the little boy that shouted "the king has got no clothes on!"
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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 28 May 2012 at 1:23pm
Yep!! In it's current form our timing system is not reliable enough or user-friendly enough. ------------- |
Posted By: Yanto
Date Posted: 28 May 2012 at 2:13pm
| I think you would get more people volounteering to organise if it wasn't for the complexities of the timing system - maybe even me! |
Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 28 May 2012 at 4:19pm
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Some people foresaw an electronic timing system as being an obstacle to getting organisators to volunteer. In the hands of operators who know their way around the electronic system, it can be a time-saver (no typing-in of results, less quibbling). In its current state of development, knowing your way around the system does take a degree of aptitude and practice.
The previous timing system - stopwatches and paper - goes to all races. As far as I'm concerned it's at the discretion of the organisators which timing system to use. ------------- Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer |
Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 28 May 2012 at 5:07pm
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Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 28 May 2012 at 5:39pm
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Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 28 May 2012 at 5:44pm
Agreed. Manual tallying requires either a split race or a very long track (Castle Combe; the full Fowlmead). If we'd been tallying at Scunthorpe we would definitely have had to split.
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