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Topic: Darley Moor, 8th July
Posted By: Adrian Setter
Subject: Darley Moor, 8th July
Date Posted: 15 June 2012 at 12:55pm
A thread for details and discussion of the BHPC race event at Darley Moor circuit, 8th July 2012
 
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=52.978933,-1.743822&spn=0.012739,0.029483&t=h&z=15" rel="nofollow - Map


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Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer



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Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 15 June 2012 at 12:59pm
We have volunteer organisators (Andrew and Heather) for this event.
 
Is anyone planning on going who is a first aider?


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Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer


Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 15 June 2012 at 1:14pm
Does anyone know where The Stuff is, specifically the laptop, the timing kit and the bell, clock and candle? I realised last night that I should have taken it all with me from Fowlmead but it was several days too late.


Posted By: Paul Lowing
Date Posted: 15 June 2012 at 1:20pm
Originally posted by Andrew S Andrew S wrote:

Does anyone know where The Stuff is, specifically the laptop, the timing kit and the bell, clock and candle? I realised last night that I should have taken it all with me from Fowlmead but it was several days too late.


Bell, book and candle, surely? Smile


Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 15 June 2012 at 1:26pm
Book? What use would we have for a book?? Certainly not as essential as the candle anyway Confused.


Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 15 June 2012 at 1:30pm
Originally posted by Andrew S Andrew S wrote:

Book? What use would we have for a book?? Certainly not as essential as the candle anyway Confused.



You need the book as a candle stand!!!


Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 15 June 2012 at 1:37pm
I have "the blue box", including flags, bell, clock, stopwatches, etc.
 
Last I knew (just after Scunthorpe), Twed had the timing kit and laptop.


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Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer


Posted By: Paul Lowing
Date Posted: 15 June 2012 at 4:40pm
Originally posted by Andrew S Andrew S wrote:

Book? What use would we have for a book?? Certainly not as essential as the candle anyway Confused.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell,_book,_and_candle" rel="nofollow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell,_book,_and_candle



Posted By: Twed
Date Posted: 20 June 2012 at 1:12pm
The royal we....being Tweds, Bird & Grove (firm of solicitors?!!) ....have the timing and laptop stuff. I'm not doing Darley, so it should all come with the Bird/Grove partners

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Never believe an atom they make up everything.


Posted By: gNick
Date Posted: 20 June 2012 at 9:51pm
Could one of you budding solicitors give me a ring, in the near future to see if the problems with the timefication system at Scunthorpe can be avoided please. 

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"I'm afraid it's definite, Mrs Banker - your son has bicycles"


Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 20 June 2012 at 9:55pm
I would suggest we run stopwatches and tally sheets at Darley Moor as a backup... We can still run the timing system as well and give it a test...
 
My guess would be most of the problems at Scunthorpe were down to operator error... What we still need is more people capable of using the system.


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Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 21 June 2012 at 9:30am
I think I know how to run the timing system and, as co-organiser, am willing to give it a try. However after Scunthorpe I also agree with having tallies and times as a backup. The circuit is big enough that one person should be able to do it.

Please can one of the Grovebirddles make sure that all the batteries (2 x timing system + 1 x laptop) are charged up, in case we don't have the timekeepers hut at DM?


Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 21 June 2012 at 10:10am
I think it will need batteries changed in the tags as well - think that may have been the problem in Scunthorpe

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Kevin Jenkins

Windcheetah


Posted By: Twed
Date Posted: 21 June 2012 at 12:49pm
Fret not .....battery charging & changing was high on my to do list. I did request guidance regarding none destructive opening of the Tags, but didn't get any.
Will consult with the 'partners' tonight and if obvious will proceed.....if not, I will consult third parties.

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Never believe an atom they make up everything.


Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 21 June 2012 at 12:51pm
If it looks like being time consuming you can bring them along to Shenington if you like - It will give us something to do in between stints in the pedal car... Smile 

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Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 21 June 2012 at 1:38pm
Originally posted by Twed Twed wrote:

I did request guidance regarding none destructive opening of the Tags, but didn't get any.
My memory is that there are four tiny screws securing the side of the box that isn't covered by the silver label (jeweller's screwdriver required), but I could be wrong. Please take care with the silver labels though - they were a devil Evil Smile to make.


Posted By: gNick
Date Posted: 21 June 2012 at 11:34pm
Originally posted by Twed Twed wrote:

Fret not .....battery charging & changing was high on my to do list. I did request guidance regarding none destructive opening of the Tags, but didn't get any.
Will consult with the 'partners' tonight and if obvious will proceed.....if not, I will consult third parties.

Do you read your PMs?

It is worth looking at whether the tags are failing before you change all the batteries. Give me a ring and I'll talk you through it.


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gNick



"I'm afraid it's definite, Mrs Banker - your son has bicycles"


Posted By: HeatherF
Date Posted: 25 June 2012 at 9:49pm
Details on race format soon but meanwhile I'd like to suggest that we try again this year to hold a bike jumble after the main racing. Now that it has stopped raining briefly, take the time to sort out those sheds and garages and make way for more useful bits that you might one day need.
 
We did try this last year (or maybe the year before, time goes so fast!) but got rained off. The idea would be very informal. Just bring anything you want to sell, with a price label on it and who you are and then we'll arrange an area to display said items. If you could also bring some money to buy the things others don't want but you can't do without - so much the better. If you prefer to barter and exchange items without cash changing hands - that's fine. The idea is simply to help each other out by redistributing useful items.
 
Any other ideas on how to make this work better, much appreciated.
 
Heather


Posted By: Yowie
Date Posted: 28 June 2012 at 11:51pm
I will be bringing   B  i T   s of bikes.


Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 29 June 2012 at 12:07am
I'll not be bring any thing.... Off to the winter side of the world for two weeks enjoy the day!



Posted By: HeatherF
Date Posted: 02 July 2012 at 11:43am
Proposed race order:
 
from 10.00: signing on
 
11.15: 3 lap time trial - anti-clockwise
 
12.30: 45 minutes plus 1 lap clockwise for slower riders
 
14.00: 45 minutes plus 1 lap clockwise for faster riders
 
15.00: cycle jumble
 
[All subject to change on the day!]
 
Heather and Andrew


Posted By: CycleMichael
Date Posted: 02 July 2012 at 4:20pm
I recently found details of this event and, as a new bent rider, I'm interested in coming along. What's the admission fee, (may be a few of us on bikes and in a car) and will there be food available?

Thanks :)


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Two wheels good, four wheels meh, five wheels what?


Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 02 July 2012 at 5:14pm
Hi,
 
Race fees are £10 (or £7 for BHPC members).
There is no charge for spectators.
 
There will be no food available on site I'm afraid.


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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 04 July 2012 at 7:23pm
Just in case anybody hasn't noticed the F1 British Grand Prix is at Silverstone this Sunday so if you are travelling up the M1 (like me...) you might need to allow a little extra time...

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Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 04 July 2012 at 10:49pm
or the M40 for that matter



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Kevin Jenkins

Windcheetah


Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 07 July 2012 at 6:14pm
Anybody localish to darley Moor know if the local roads (and track??) are ok??


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Posted By: Richard Ballant
Date Posted: 07 July 2012 at 8:23pm
not a local report, but has relevant bits

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18750430

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Richard Ballantine

Chairman


Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 07 July 2012 at 8:27pm
Thanks Richard,
 
Local weather forecast is here... http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2656981" rel="nofollow - http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2656981
 
Any thoughts folks??
 
 


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Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 07 July 2012 at 9:04pm
Trying to say something positive - well shouldn't be too cold Smile

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Kevin Jenkins

Windcheetah


Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 07 July 2012 at 9:23pm
Big smile
The wind looks like it might be quite light by Darley  Moor standards as well....

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Posted By: Yanto
Date Posted: 07 July 2012 at 10:29pm
Just a few isolated but heavy showers up this neck o' t'woods today, no reports of any problems.  Forecast although not brilliant isn't bad by recent standards, a bit of drizzle, but hey, what do you want 22 deg C and brilliant sunshine? Wink


Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 07 July 2012 at 10:32pm
We've had some really heavy showers here today but luckily they didn't start until after I got back from my ride this morning... Big smile

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Posted By: Twed
Date Posted: 07 July 2012 at 11:51pm
Ok, been testing the timing system on Fri afternoon and all today. Only one failure Tag No 30 .....replaced battery now ok. Neither of the tags that failed completely at Scunny showed problems (nos 8 & 14).....so, I don't know....if I were to guess I'd say maybe they are at the boarderline of working....so don't use them. Have fun tomoz, I'm off to watch some serious fly-bys (Fairford).

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Never believe an atom they make up everything.


Posted By: Yanto
Date Posted: 08 July 2012 at 6:27pm
Thanks all that made today possible, and big ouch to all that touched tarmac with bits other than tyres, esp' Adrian as he looked very sore!
 
I have managed to capture the fast race from my perspective, all i have to do is master the editing, spend hrs uploading onto you tube and then find out how to insert a hyperlink!
 
Oh and thanks to weather gods for just giving us a tiny sprinkling of water to keep the dust down!


Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 08 July 2012 at 8:02pm

Many thanks to Heather, Andrew, Barney and Co...

A great event...
 
Thanks to Karen Darke for towing me around most of the race!!
 
And huge thanks to whoever resurfaced what used to be the bumpy section!!!
 
 
Hope all those that fell off are ok....


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Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 08 July 2012 at 8:03pm
These are the results of the time trial:

Pos Name Nr Bike Name Class Laps Time MPH
1 Steve Slade 1 Beano O 3 8:00.00 32.8
2 Lee Wakefield 2 Milan SL O/Mf 3 8:16.00 31.8
3 Ian Perry 6 Wobbly Bob O/Mf 3 8:24.00 31.2
4 Andrew Sidwell 102 Rattysnake O/P 3 9:21.00 28.1
5 Claire King 25 Kingcycle O/L 3 10:43.00 24.5
6 Sam Relton 127 D6 Crusader O/J 3 11:05.00 23.7
7 Geoff Bird 150 HPV Heaven T7 O/St 3 11:13.00 23.4
8 Sarah Tweddle 114 Claire's bike O/L/J 3 11:20.00 23.1
9 Nick Marshall 52 Munster O/P/U/Mf/M 3 11:33.00 22.7
10 John Lucian 86 Fair Sprint O/P/Mf/M 3 11:47.00 22.3
11 Alan Goodman 47 Kingcycle O/P/U/St/S 3 12:28.00 21
12 Karen Darke 53 caron bike O/P/U/L/Lp/Mf/M/A 3 12:29.00 21
13 Nick Martin 90 unfaired trike O/P/U/Mf/M 3 12:46.00 20.5
14 Fiona Grove 34 Velodynamics T8 O/P/U/L/Lp 3 12:54.00 20.3
15 Leo McNally 60 Challenge Hurricane O/P/U 3 12:56.00 20.3
16 Jon Coulson 62 Toxy O/P 3 13:20.00 19.7
17 Judith Griffiths 116 Not Smurf O/P/U/L/Lp/Mf/M 3 13:50.00 19
18 Geoff Marshall 111 tiger prawn O/P/U/Mf/M/A 3 14:32.00 18
19 Andy Chamings 58 draft O/P/U/Mf/M/A 3 14:46.00 17.8
20 Adrian Setter 16 VLR O/P 3 14:56.00 17.6
21 Ian Andrew 57 Force R  O/P/U/Mf/M/A 3 15:41.00 16.7
22 Anne Coulson 61 Kingcycle O/L 3 17:39.00 14.8
23 George Harle 17 Velodynamics Mk1 O/P/St/S/J 3 18:57.00 13.8
24 Anne Tweddle 4 Kingcycle O/P/L/Lp/St/S 3 19:56.00 13.1



Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 08 July 2012 at 8:09pm
And these are the results of the main races:

Race 1 (slow):

Pos Name Bike Name Laps Time MPH
1 Sarah Tweddle Claire's bike 13 50:10.46 22.7
2 Sam Relton D6 Crusader 13 50:15.39 22.6
3 Alan Goodman Kingcycle 12 50:28.67 20.8
4 Karen Darke caron bike 12 50:29.69 20.8
5 Leo McNally Challenge Hurricane 12 53:06.15 19.8
6 Jon Coulson Toxy 12 54:44.47 19.2
7 Geoff Marshall tiger prawn 11 52:13.59 18.4
8 Andy Chamings draft 11 52:18.19 18.4
9 Judith Griffiths Not Smurf 11 53:14.44 18.1
10 Anne Tweddle Kingcycle 10 53:27.27 16.3
11 Ian Andrew Force R  9 53:52.86 14.6
12 George Harle Velodynamics Mk1 8 54:50.95 12.7

Race 2 (fast):

Pos Name Bike Name Laps Time MPH
1 Steve Slade Beano 18 49:20.83 31.9
2 Lee Wakefield Milan SL 18 51:13.20 30.7
3 Ian Perry Wobbly Bob 18 52:01.89 30.3
4 Andrew Sidwell Rattysnake 16 50:37.97 27.6
5 Claire King Kingcycle 14 49:53.98 24.5
6 Geoff Bird HPV Heaven T7 13 49:53.69 22.8
7 Nick Marshall Munster 13 50:37.48 22.5
8 John Lucian Fair Sprint 13 52:22.92 21.7
9 Fiona Grove Velodynamics T8 12 52:02.48 20.2
10 Nick Martin unfaired trike 12 52:02.70 20.2


Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 08 July 2012 at 8:13pm
Well done Andrew   Clap  Does that mean that the timing worked this time? Or was this with stop watch?



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Kevin Jenkins

Windcheetah


Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 08 July 2012 at 8:13pm
And finally main race combined:

Pos Name Bike Name Laps Time MPH
1 Steve Slade Beano 18 49:20.83 32
2 Lee Wakefield Milan SL 18 51:13.20 31
3 Ian Perry Wobbly Bob 18 52:01.89 30
4 Andrew Sidwell Rattysnake 16 50:37.97 28
5 Claire King Kingcycle 14 49:53.98 25
6 Geoff Bird HPV Heaven T7 13 49:53.69 23
7 Sarah Tweddle Claire's bike 13 50:10.46 23
8 Sam Relton D6 Crusader 13 50:15.39 23
9 Nick Marshall Munster 13 50:37.48 23
10 John Lucian Fair Sprint 13 52:22.92 22
11 Alan Goodman Kingcycle 12 50:28.67 21
12 Karen Darke caron bike 12 50:29.69 21
13 Fiona Grove Velodynamics T8 12 52:02.48 20
14 Nick Martin unfaired trike 12 52:02.70 20
15 Leo McNally Challenge Hurricane 12 53:06.15 20
16 Jon Coulson Toxy 12 54:44.47 19
17 Geoff Marshall tiger prawn 11 52:13.59 18
18 Andy Chamings draft 11 52:18.19 18
19 Judith Griffiths Not Smurf 11 53:14.44 18
20 Anne Tweddle Kingcycle 10 53:27.27 16
21 Ian Andrew Force R  9 53:52.86 15
22 George Harle Velodynamics Mk1 8 54:50.95 13

Quibbles and queries?


Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 08 July 2012 at 8:15pm
Originally posted by KevinJ KevinJ wrote:

Well done Andrew   Clap  Does that mean that the timing worked this time? Or was this with stop watch?

Shhhhh! Don't mention the timing system.... Wink

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Posted By: LeeW
Date Posted: 08 July 2012 at 8:34pm
Apparently the timing system decided it did not want to work today so we ended up with lap counting.

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Current fleet: Milan SL MK2 #027, Fujin SL II, Beany!



Posted By: LeeW
Date Posted: 08 July 2012 at 8:41pm
My thanks for the prompt resultage :)
Had a fab time, many thanks for all those who made it possible. Circuit is now really nice with new surface on the back straight. Was a fun race for me and very close too. I had no rear view so had no idea if yanto was on my tail or not after I passed him.
Well done to newcommer Karen too, she was going rather quickly on that beautiful machine of hers. First time we had an Olympion riding?

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Current fleet: Milan SL MK2 #027, Fujin SL II, Beany!



Posted By: GeoffBird
Date Posted: 08 July 2012 at 9:30pm
Many thanks to Heather and Andrew and Barney for organisating (Fiona says thank you too). Get well soon Adrian.

Good to see the handcycle boys again - it's been so long since last time, Geoff couldn't remember my name, despite it being the same as his LOL

Really enjoyed the day and the weather was unexpectedly perfect!


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Right Time - Right Place - Wrong Speed


Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 08 July 2012 at 10:21pm
Originally posted by AlanGoodman AlanGoodman wrote:

Shhhhh! Don't mention the timing system.... Wink
Indeed: the power supply for the tag box seems to be dead (although the battery was OK). I couldn't connect to the box from the laptop so couldn't wake-up the tags. Signers-on were gathering threateningly around the desk by this time so I gave up.

PS: And the instructions have vanished from the tag box, making it more than usually enigmatic.


Posted By: HeatherF
Date Posted: 09 July 2012 at 9:49am
Thanks to all who helped out yesterday especially Barney and Nick Marshall, without whom the time trial would have been a little more challenging! And to all those who performed excellent tallying duties.
 
Apologies to those who brought stuff for the promised cycle jumble. I'm afraid I forgot to announce it and by the time John Lucian reminded me, many people were ready to go.
 
There were also World Championship T shirts for sale which are being looked after by Anne Tweddle and which will (probably?) be available at the Lancaster/Preston weekend.
 
Heather


Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 09 July 2012 at 2:06pm
My thanks, too, to Andrew, Heather and everybody else who helped with organisation.
 
Also to Fiona for her usual excellent job in patching up the scraped and a special mention to Anne Tweddle for stopping to help out when Anne Coulson and I went down in the TT.  I've heard that there was a story from a bystander that Anne had taken me out.  Not true: I lost it on the corner and Anne, who I'd just passed, ploughed into the wreckage a second or two later.
 
Finally, thanks to the Weather Gods for clearing up in time for a good day's racing.  Apparently Park corner was under more than a foot of standing water on Friday afternoon, which would have made riding a low-racer interesting (though possibly less painful).


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Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer


Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 09 July 2012 at 2:41pm
My very best wishes to both Adrian and Anne for a swift recovery and hope to see both back in full action for Preston/Lancaster.

The same eye-witness who reported Anne ramming Adrian from behind also told me that two-wheelers were inherently unstable and hence bound to crash. Apparently the 'young lass on the trike' (indicating Nick Marshall) was much safer...




Posted By: BarneyH
Date Posted: 09 July 2012 at 4:01pm
Crashes apart I think most folk had a good time, unfortunately I was too busy helping Heather to take many photo's and could do with some to go with the article that a certain Mr B has forced requested me to write.
 
Any body got any decent shots?
 
Hopefully I'll be back on a bike by Preston as well.


Posted By: NickM
Date Posted: 09 July 2012 at 8:33pm
Originally posted by Andrew S Andrew S wrote:

...the 'young lass on the trike' (indicating Nick Marshall) was much safer...


Confused by the flowing locks streaming out from under the Marshall helmet, no doubt Shocked

Didn't spot the two days' stubble, then Confused

Thanks to everybody (especially Heather) who contributed to the best day we have had at Darley Moor for ages. We hope that the injured (and Barney's knee) get better soon. It's only three weeks to Lancaster/Preston!


Posted By: Yanto
Date Posted: 10 July 2012 at 9:01am
Here's a link, (hopefully) to the video i made of the fast race:
 
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtWhB4DkjjE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtWhB4DkjjE


Posted By: Mad Hatter
Date Posted: 10 July 2012 at 11:53am
I am on the road to recovery, apparently I landed on my head again, that's why my neck was aching on Sunday. My helmet has now been replaced as it was used to full purpose. On close inspection at home the front fibreglass fairing required attention, Jon has dealt with that. Fabric fairing will need some patching.
 
It was very chivalrous of Adrian to lay his coat down in what was a puddle on Friday, in true Raleigh style, for a lady to progress over. Unfortunately he was still in it.
 
Anne


Posted By: Twed
Date Posted: 10 July 2012 at 5:34pm
LOL
Sorry to hear you are both patched up......hope it will not stop any participation at Lanc/Prest. I'm happy to take over any organisation duties if required (assumption maybe).
I'll check the timing system too.

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Never believe an atom they make up everything.


Posted By: NickM
Date Posted: 10 July 2012 at 6:32pm
Originally posted by Yanto Yanto wrote:

Here's a link, (hopefully) to the video i made of the fast race:
 
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtWhB4DkjjE" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtWhB4DkjjE

Excellent!! The commentary is very useful, making it much more interesting than most "from-the-cockpit" videos.

You are a better cornerererer than I will ever be - even if you do lack a tilt... Ermm


Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 13 July 2012 at 1:24pm
The http://www.bhpc.org.uk/Data/Sites/1/archive/events/events12/darleymoor-12.html" rel="nofollow - results for Darley Moor are now available on the website together with the http://www.bhpc.org.uk/Data/Sites/1/archive/events/events12/tables12.html" rel="nofollow - Championship tables . Many thanks to Kevin for posting up.



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