Rhyl
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Topic: Rhyl
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Subject: Rhyl
Date Posted: 19 August 2012 at 1:11pm
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Thought I'd start this one off nice and early...
Anybody willing to organise at Rhyl??
I have just spoken to the chap at this camp site... http://www.clwydview.co.uk/index.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.clwydview.co.uk/index.html
It's pretty close to the track and they sound very friendly. I've booked in from the Friday night until Sunday (no deposit required...
 )I've said there will probably be a dozen or so people camping. As it's towards the end of the season he said there shouldn't be any problems but he's going to make sure there is space for us...
 When you ring just say you're with Alan Goodman's party so he knows who you are...
Try not to wreck the place or I'll get the blame as he's only got my name... ------------- |
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Posted By: BlueHurricane
Date Posted: 22 August 2012 at 8:05pm
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Friday night until Sunday....ehm....when...? |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 22 August 2012 at 8:14pm
I thought I'd go the weekend the race is on...
 http://www.bhpc.org.uk/1events.aspx" rel="nofollow - http://www.bhpc.org.uk/1events.aspx
Camping Friday 21st to Sunday 23rd... Race is on Saturday 22nd September.
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BlueHurricane wrote:Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 22 August 2012 at 9:05pm
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Is anybody willing to organise this event??... Or help out with organising?  Do we have anybody willing to provide First Aid cover at Rhyl?? ------------- |
Posted By: BlueHurricane
Date Posted: 22 August 2012 at 10:33pm
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Ah, schedule, good point, should have checked that first :D Maybe i'll be able to persuade my girlfriend to drive me up there...
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Posted By: SteveArmstrong
Date Posted: 22 August 2012 at 10:51pm
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I'm happy to assist. Rhyl is relatively local for me and it looks like an awesome track! ------------- When you pull the cats tail, you get the whole cat. |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 22 August 2012 at 10:52pm
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Posted By: GeoffBird
Date Posted: 22 August 2012 at 10:56pm
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Alan Goodman wrote: "I thought I'd go the weekend the race is on... " It's radical, but it makes SENSE ------------- Right Time - Right Place - Wrong Speed |
Posted By: Andhar
Date Posted: 23 August 2012 at 11:04pm
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We are going, so I can do First Aid. As long as someone brings the kit ------------- Andrew Harrington |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 23 August 2012 at 11:17pm
Brilliant! Thanks Andrew!! 
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Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 24 August 2012 at 1:35pm
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sorry not going leaving for SA tomorrow back oct.... dang shame cos my local track, thanks to AS for booking it. |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 28 August 2012 at 11:10pm
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OK Then... I'll do it... We will NOT be using the timing system. Please come prepared to count laps for whichever race you aren't in. Races will be 30 minutes in each direction so we get to have a good look at what will be a new track for all of us. I'm driving up on the Friday so I'll go and have a look around the track if I get a chance. Results will be available by Sunday night at the latest. ------------- |
Posted By: Wyndrake
Date Posted: 29 August 2012 at 10:57am
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I'll be staying quite near to Rhyl on Friday night, so I can be at the track early on Saturday to give you a hand...... Alan B. |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 29 August 2012 at 11:08am
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Thanks Alan!
Does anybody know if there is a clubhouse or anywhere with power for the laptop?
Has the track been paid for or will we need to sort that out when we get there as with Stourport?
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Posted By: Wyndrake
Date Posted: 29 August 2012 at 11:33am
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The Marsh Tracks website refers to "...meeting and
changing rooms with showers and toilets" and a trackside hut has been installed for spectators, but whether the latter has power I don't know.... Alan B. |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 29 August 2012 at 4:59pm
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Sounds promising! At least the people counting laps should be able to stay dry... ------------- |
Posted By: Yanto
Date Posted: 29 August 2012 at 6:41pm
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If i can urge my lethargic lardy arse off the sofa i will attend, i wasn't going to as it in Wales and all cross country driving for me, but it looks a cracking track ! Are we racing from 11am? just so that i know when i have to set the cock a doodle doo to crow before sun rise or just after!
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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 29 August 2012 at 6:44pm
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I'll aim to have registration open by 10am at the latest and the first race away at 11am.
Camping over not an option Ian?
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Posted By: Yanto
Date Posted: 30 August 2012 at 7:18am
| could camp i suppose, don't really want to as it will probably be blowing a gale and lashing it down! had a look at website but couldn't see any prices, do you know how much it is to camp? |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 30 August 2012 at 1:04pm
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It's £16 per night apparently... ------------- |
Posted By: Andhar
Date Posted: 30 August 2012 at 1:20pm
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I would like to ride both events; I can get Lorraine to count laps. Being Scottish I like to get my money's worth. ------------- Andrew Harrington |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 30 August 2012 at 1:32pm
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Everybody gets to ride in both directions - but assuming a reasonable number of people turn up we will split the field into two (nominally fast and slow)... So the people in the fast race would count laps for the people in the slow race and vice-versa...
There will therefore be 4 races in total, with every rider taking part in two... ------------- |
Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 30 August 2012 at 4:25pm
| Thinking about heading up, just trying to work out how feasible it is to ride there, grunting the Quest over the top of the horseshoe pass might hurt. |
Posted By: Yowie
Date Posted: 30 August 2012 at 8:58pm
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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 09 September 2012 at 4:38pm
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Right... Registration will open by 10AM and will CLOSE at 10:45AM 11:00 - Race 1 - Slow Race - Clockwise - 30 Minutes + 1 Lap 11:45 - Race 2 - Fast Race - Clockwise - 30 Minutes + 1 Lap 13:00 - Race 3 - Slow Race - Anticlockwise - 30 Minutes + 1 Lap 13:45 - Race 4 - Fast Race - Anticlockwise - 30 Minutes + 1 Lap ------------- |
Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 17 September 2012 at 1:37pm
| Much respect to the Comp Sec for having the race on a Saturday: the http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/2639409" rel="nofollow - forecast is much better than for Friday or Sunday. It's what we pay our memberships for. |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 21 September 2012 at 5:43pm
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I'm finally at the camp site after a grim 6 hour drive. Weather is ok here at the moment. Hoping to have a sneaky look at the track later ------------- |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 21 September 2012 at 6:10pm
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Mr Burrows has now arrived. ------------- |
Posted By: BarneyH
Date Posted: 21 September 2012 at 6:47pm
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Unfortunately had to cancel my plans to camp tonight due to family committments so will see you all in the morning. Forecast looks promising, as do the photos of the track. Barney
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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 22 September 2012 at 6:38am
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Only me, Mike and Slash camping in the end. Nice morning here. Chilly but no wind. Which is somewhat surprising after last night's Indian. :o) ------------- |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 22 September 2012 at 4:11pm
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Provisional results for Rhyl are below.
Many thanks to everybody who helped with the organising.
Very sorry to report that the second slow race was cut short after George crashed and was taken to hospital with a suspected broken leg - Get well soon George!!!
Great track at Rhyl and they even have WiFi!
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Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 24 September 2012 at 9:33am
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Nice work with the results, Alan. Also nice work Kevin for the software which seems capable of producing sensible results whatever you throw at it. Many thanks to Alan and Heather for exemplary organisating. Rhyl is a great track with one of the best surfaces I've raced on and a good mix of fast and tight bends. About the only possible improvements would be one or two longer straights and a better location, closer to where anyone actually lived. All best wishes to George and I hope he gets better (or at least gets home) soon. |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 24 September 2012 at 11:16am
Heather did most of the work (again) which allowed me to race...  Definitely the best track I have raced on with BHPC... Even at my speed the bends were exciting and I've never been on any surface that gave me that much confidence... Wonder what its like in the wet? Also worth mentioning that we were made very welcome and they ended up providing First Aid cover for us as well. I really hope we go there again next year... ------------- |
Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 24 September 2012 at 11:34am
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I'm glad it proved to be a good venue, and I'm sorry I couldn't be there.
Though not very central, geographically speaking, when I was considering it as a venue I was pleasantly surprised that its connections to fast roads meant that driving times from most parts of the country were not prohibitive. ------------- Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 24 September 2012 at 11:39am
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The camp site was ok but not cheap at £16 per night... Their card entry system was nice and secure but a bit of a pain to be honest. The Indian restaurant just round the corner was great though, and the little cafe did a good breakfast... ------------- |
Posted By: SteveArmstrong
Date Posted: 24 September 2012 at 1:03pm
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I loved the track and riding the mountain bike was actually quite instructive in terms of getting a performance comparison with the recumbent. I have some photo's and video footage which I shall endeavour to upload later today. ------------- When you pull the cats tail, you get the whole cat. |
Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 24 September 2012 at 5:01pm
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Posted By: Andhar
Date Posted: 28 September 2012 at 8:06pm
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Thanks to all organisers on the day. Fantastic track and I could pedal through all corners on my road bike. Brilliant weather too. Shame about George, but hopefully he'll be back next year. ------------- Andrew Harrington |
Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 29 September 2012 at 4:10pm
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hope you all enjoyed north wales!! as for us... well just finished the race yesterday,, third in olymipa class and set a new South African record for the most solar miles in a race day!!! see yall soon Graydog |
Posted By: Twed
Date Posted: 01 October 2012 at 1:11pm
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It was a very nice track in those conditions. It took me a while to realise that I could not use the top 2 gears on the bike and that I should just spin it and put more speed through the corners (as there was enough grip). There was enough room to take several lines through the corners .....this was especially noticeable in the second race as I tried to safely maintain (average) speed whilst negotiating trikes, stricken Georges etc. I suspect the track would take on another level of 'challenging' if it was wet .....not because of lean angle (I wasn't full on), but there was a couple of corners, where at speed, the apexing had to be precise to stay on the black stuff. Yes ...I was worried that although the track was big enough for Sarah to have a first streamliner ride.....that it may prove too technical and it may put her off. HA!....not a chance.....I was so chuffed to see her leaning enough to grab a good result. Looks like I have lost my ride for the rest of the season  ------------- Never believe an atom they make up everything. |
Posted By: Twed
Date Posted: 01 October 2012 at 1:14pm
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Oh....Kevin ....I forgot to add .....you can mark me down for 3rd overall. Eddie was better than me on the day. Although anti-clockwise was faster (a lot faster for me), I suspect I would not have held that average had we gone the full distance. ------------- Never believe an atom they make up everything. |
Posted By: Andhar
Date Posted: 01 October 2012 at 4:31pm
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I dont think that my average for the second race is correct. I can only manage just over 25MPH for 40mins on the road on my TT bike with full aero kit. I reckon I was a bit quicker say about 0.5-1mph in the 2nd race. I wish i could average 27 though.... ------------- Andrew Harrington |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 01 October 2012 at 4:40pm
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I think four of us possibly did 9 laps not 10... But the score I had for you and one other said 10 and I knew we were all on the same lap...
It was a bit of a mess with the race being stopped early but I'm pretty sure the race order is correct which is all that matters for championship points...
Heather and I did the best we could with the results we had... Everybody else had left by the time I finished sorting them out and uploading them here... ------------- |
Posted By: Andhar
Date Posted: 01 October 2012 at 5:25pm
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No problems Alan. Lorraine counted me on 9 laps too. Not too bothered, just didnt want people thinking I was that quick. Great track If on next year we will come back. ------------- Andrew Harrington |
Posted By: SteveArmstrong
Date Posted: 01 October 2012 at 9:06pm
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Finally figured out my account details for Flickr! (hadn't used it for 5 months). So here are a couple of photo's of Rhyl. Not many I'm afraid. http://www.flickr.com/photos/flatout_hpv/" rel="nofollow - http://www.flickr.com/photos/flatout_hpv/ I have over 7 minutes of video from the 2nd fast race which I am putting together now. ------------- When you pull the cats tail, you get the whole cat. |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 01 October 2012 at 9:53pm
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Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 02 October 2012 at 8:31am
So after all that - do I have to change anything or not?  ------------- Kevin Jenkins Windcheetah |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 02 October 2012 at 8:36am
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No it's fine as it is Kevin... Possibly not 100% accurate in terms of average speed but it ties up with the notes I have and everybody is in the correct order. Personally I don't think we should ever change results this late after a race... I was in the office on site for nearly an hour after everybody else had gone... Anybody worried about results could have stayed there and sorted it then... ------------- |
Posted By: SteveArmstrong
Date Posted: 03 October 2012 at 1:10pm
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Here's a video of the second fast race, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9QFj-NrWQ4" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9QFj-NrWQ4 ------------- When you pull the cats tail, you get the whole cat. |