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Topic: 2013 Lancaster/Preston

Posted By: Andrew S
Subject: 2013 Lancaster/Preston
Date Posted: 09 May 2013 at 1:21pm

This is a place for discussion and information about the 4th and 5th rounds of the 2013 BHPC Championship at https://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?msid=208470313952899343599.0004cea3175fab716fe41&msa=0&ll=54.042659,-2.844086&spn=0.077916,0.146599&iwloc=0004ced939ea2610ab171" rel="nofollow - Lancaster on Saturday 25th May and https://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?msid=208470313952899343599.0004cea3175fab716fe41&msa=0&ll=53.795277,-2.74229&spn=0.078379,0.146599&iwloc=0004ced93b9becdc11720" rel="nofollow - Preston on Sunday 26th May.

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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 14 May 2013 at 9:51am

Any news on the format for these events please?

Also is anybody available to provide First Aid cover?

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Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 14 May 2013 at 10:02am

I'll discuss formats for Lancaster with Jon & Anne later this week, probably tomorrow. If not then, it will be Saturday so expect an announcement no later than Sunday. Most probable format is standard-type races and a Devil.

For what times do we have the track booked?

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Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer

Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 14 May 2013 at 9:07pm

Adrian Setter wrote:

For what times do we have the track booked?

We have the usual 10:00am to 4:00pm, both days.

Posted By: Nitram
Date Posted: 20 May 2013 at 4:49pm

Hi folks, following a couple of years away and spectating at Shrewsbury I think it's about time I ventured out on to the track again to see if I can make myself feel sick again (probably a lot easier now as I'm even less fitterer than I used to be).

So I'm getting the trike ready for Lancaster and Preston but can't for the life of me remember what my race number used to be, I think it was 153 or possibly 135 or it's quite likely to be nothing like either of those. I'm sure I've asked this before, in the dim and distant past, but a search isn't throwing anything up and I've looked through all the photos I can find but nothing with my number on. Does anybody out there know what my race number is please.

Martin Lucy

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When a ball dreams it dreams it's a frisbee
When a bike dreams it dreams it's a trike

Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 20 May 2013 at 5:28pm

Nitram wrote:

can't for the life of me remember what my race number used to be, I think it was 153 or possibly 135 or it's quite likely to be nothing like either of those.

Hi Martin -

According to Mnemo the Memory Man you were no 135 when you last raced. However this number has since been used (by Ewa Zielinska at Hillingdon since you were about to ask) so I'm afraid you will need to choose a new one. Probably best to do it at sign-on in Lancaster, but I could pre-assign one if you need to make numbers beforehand.

Posted By: Nitram
Date Posted: 20 May 2013 at 10:00pm

Thanks Andrew, if you could assign me a new number that would be great. That way I could make up some number plates (which might be legible) rather than resorting to felt tips and fag packets LOL

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When a ball dreams it dreams it's a frisbee
When a bike dreams it dreams it's a trike

Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 21 May 2013 at 8:40am

Any further news on what the races are likely to be?

BBC weather forecast is looking promising... I suggest you avoid looking at Metcheck...

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Posted By: Adrian Setter
Date Posted: 21 May 2013 at 10:25am

Just to confirm that the race format for Lancaster will be:

40 mins +1 lap in two heats (or more if numbers require) for 70% of points

Devil. All riders start together. Riders are pulled out after the first full lap and then on every half lap. 30% of points

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Challenge Hurricane - MicWic Delta (Front half) - Burrows Ratracer

Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 21 May 2013 at 2:38pm

Many Thanks Adrian. Thumbs Up

Do we have an organiser for Preston??

Steve is down as assisting but nobody is listed as main organiser yet...

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Posted By: SteveArmstrong
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 12:01am

I'm sorry to say that I'm going to have to bow out from Preston for a close friend's stag do in Northern Ireland... that's my whole weekend racing gone. At least my imminent move south will make the rest of the race calender easier for me to reach.

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When you pull the cats tail, you get the whole cat.

Posted By: John R
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 1:18pm

After consultation with Alan it would seem that the task of running an event should be within my capabilities so I am prepared to run the day at Preston on Sunday. I will however need the help of some of the faithful to help with the some running of the day.

Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 1:40pm

Nitram wrote:

Thanks Andrew, if you could assign me a new number that would be great. That way I could make up some number plates (which might be legible) rather than resorting to felt tips and fag packets LOL

How about no 83? That's the first/lowest available number. Other numbers are available but unless you have a violent dislike of 83 it would take a long time to list them all.

Adrian: Please can you allocate 83 to Martin Lucy in the sign-on sheet?

Posted By: Nitram
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 4:25pm

Thanks Andrew, 83 sounds good to me, only two digits to try and remember

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When a ball dreams it dreams it's a frisbee
When a bike dreams it dreams it's a trike

Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 6:05pm

Nitram wrote:

Thanks Andrew, 83 sounds good to me, only two digits to try and remember

careful on to flip it over then

you'll have three numbers to thik about in the human world E8(base16)

Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 22 May 2013 at 10:44pm

John R wrote:

After consultation with Alan it would seem that the task of running an event should be within my capabilities so I am prepared to run the day at Preston on Sunday. I will however need the help of some of the faithful to help with the some running of the day.

Good on yer John! Thumbs Up

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Posted By: Paul Goodwin
Date Posted: 23 May 2013 at 1:26pm

Random question now, but does anyone happen to have a stelvio / durano / etc in 451 sizing they could bring along to Lancaster at all?

I ordered a tyre last Friday from Rob & Carol and completely missed that they aren't processing orders until the 27th.

Posted By: John R
Date Posted: 23 May 2013 at 7:01pm

I have a brand new 28-451 Durano that you can have. Will bring it at the weekend.

Posted By: Paul Goodwin
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 11:37am

Hi John,

Thanks for that, much appreciated!

Posted By: Paul Goodwin
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 6:09pm

Looks like there's no trains running from Preston to Lancaster after 6.30 am or so, as a result I'll probably be in Lancaster for about 7ish. Anybody have any recommendations for decent cafes for breakfast, etc?

Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 24 May 2013 at 8:14pm

Mcdoalds are just round the corner

Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 25 May 2013 at 5:24pm

Many thanks to all te organisers and helpers today.

I really like the track and the surroundings but the local morons make me doubt whether we should be going there again. The shopping trolley was a new one, but the dog walkers were also a disaster waiting t happen.

Maybe look at doubling Rhyl with Preston next year?

See you all tomorrow at Preston (those that aren't here on the camp site!)

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Posted By: graydog
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 9:51pm

Big up to organisers and helpers today, Finn loved his ride and Bec did spin faster

stiil got my couch cough!!!

it was good to get out and stretch the legs, go chain gang. REally enjoyable day....

Posted By: NickM
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 9:59pm

I agree that the Lancaster circuit, while entertaining to ride, also has too many unwanted "entertainments" in the form of local lowlife and aggressive dog walkers with IQs on a par with their pets. We expect, but cannot enforce, sensible behaviour while races are in progress; by the time the cavalry in the form of the sports centre's staff arrive on scene it could be too late.

Preston has none of these problems. A double header with Rhyl sounds like an excellent weekend to us.

We had a jolly good time, anyway. Thanks to all who contributed to our excellent weekend Oop North. Travelling home to Shropshire instead of London is a great deal easier, too Smile

Nick and Judith

Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 10:00pm

Well done to John and Sam today... All went very smoothly apart from some fool who couldn't get started... Embarrassed

Home now - Many thanks to Fards for the tip... A50 to Derby then M1 worked a treat after they closed the M6 at Junction 11!!

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Posted By: GeoffBird
Date Posted: 26 May 2013 at 11:23pm

Our thanks to the organisers too - both days went very smoothly, which is especially commendable considering it was, I believe, the first race John Relton has organised.

A great weekend both on and off the track, apart from the traffic on Friday, but then, we were adding to it, so we can't really complain...

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Right Time - Right Place - Wrong Speed

Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 27 May 2013 at 9:56am

Reposted from fb cosIrlazy

Really enjoyed today racing at Preston, thanks to Graham and family in "dabus" for coming out of their way to meet me.
GPS says 27.7mph for 15 min Sprint, and 26mph for 1hr race.
Including 33 miles out, 30 miles back I think that's a respectable day.
Should have race videos sorted soon :)

We now know the secret of Mike Burrows amazing speed ... the effects of his top secret drink on Fraser were pretty remarkable!
Never seen anyone look so drunk after a bottle of sports drink and then charge round the track like a man possessed!

Posted By: NickM
Date Posted: 27 May 2013 at 10:26am

fards wrote:

We now know the secret of Mike Burrows amazing speed ... the effects of his top secret drink on Fraser were pretty remarkable!
Never seen anyone look so drunk after a bottle of sports drink and then charge round the track like a man possessed!

Hmmm... champagne+strychnine cocktail? Shades of Choppy Warburton!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choppy_Warburton

Posted By: blogwat
Date Posted: 27 May 2013 at 11:47am

Hi Folks

thanks for a great day out weather played ball too so good all round here are the photo's copy any you want enjoy http://www.flickr.com/photos/recumbents/" rel="nofollow - http://www.flickr.com/photos/recumbents/

Jeff. ps when page comes up click on photostream to bring all the photos up as usual it is not playing ball sorry about that.

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when your up to your waist in aligators they forget to tell you you've got to clear the swamp

Posted By: GeoffBird
Date Posted: 27 May 2013 at 12:28pm

Nice photos Jeff - thanks

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Right Time - Right Place - Wrong Speed

Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 27 May 2013 at 12:29pm

Great pictures Jeff! Thumbs Up

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Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 27 May 2013 at 3:01pm

Here are the results from Lancaster - I'm afraid watching David Bowie on iPlayer just seemed so much more attractive than posting results by the time we got home last night.

I've added a lap to Paul Goodwin's results in Round 1, as I think was requested by Adrian, but please let me know if this doesn't look right to anyone:

Round 1, Race 1: 40 mins + 1 lap, fast


Pos	Name	Nr	Bike Name	Class	Laps	Time	MPH
1	Steve Slade	1	Beano	O	27	41:42.88	31.3
2	Mike Burrows	0	Q	O/P	25	42:15.87	28.6
3	Jack Watson	54	Bob	O/J	25	43:06.19	28
4	Andrew Sidwell	102	Rattysnake Unfaired	O/P/U	24	43:31.15	26.6
5	Adrian Setter	16	Ratracer	O/P	23	42:23.86	26.2
6	Sam Relton	127	Crusader	O	22	43:08.13	24.6
7	Claire King	25	Kingcycle	O/L	22	43:10.80	24.6
8	Joseph Parker	101	HPV Heaven T7	O/St	21	42:58.86	23.6
9	Richard Everett	65	Windcheater	O/P/Mf/M	20	42:55.22	22.5
10	Karl Sparenberg	124	Windy	O/P/Mf/M	20	42:55.72	22.5
11	Paul Goodwin	89	Raptobike	O/P/U	20	42:57.73	22.5
12	John Lucian	86	Fair Sprint	O/P/Mf/M	19	43:15.88	21.2
13	Alan Goodman	47	Ratty	O/P	14	41:42.88	16.2

Round 1, Race 2: 40 mins + 1 lap, slow


Pos	Name	Nr	Bike Name	Class	Laps	Time	MPH
1	Simon Watson	55	Coppi	O/P/U	20	43:02.30	22.4
2	Derek Tweddle	96	Hurrican	O/P/U/St/S	20	43:15.66	22.3
3	Fraser Tomsett	46	Molerat	O/P/U	19	43:32.57	21.1
4	Andrew Mills	153	Hurricane SL	O/P/U/St/S	19	43:33.22	21
5	Geoff Bird	150	HPV Heaven T7	O/St	19	43:58.89	20.8
6	Fiona Grove	34	Velodynamics T8	O/P/U/L/Lp	18	43:23.38	20
7	Anne Coulson	61	Kingcycle	O/L	18	44:09.22	19.7
8	Jon Coulson	62	Toxy	O/P	17	43:50.86	18.7
9	Heather Fortnum	104	Mason King	O/P/L/Lp/St/S	17	44:22.00	18.5
10	Judith Griffiths	116	Smurf	O/P/L/Lp/Mf/M	16	43:08.10	17.9
11	Mike Hughes	105	ICE B2	O/P/U/St/S	16	44:47.82	17.2
12	Katie Sparenberg	76	Windy Too	O/P/U/L/Lp/Mf/M	15	43:16.00	16.7
13	Alan Braley	155	Ice Vortex	O/P/U/Mf/M	15	44:15.76	16.3
14	Martin Lucy	83	Catrrike 700	O/P/U/Mf/M	15	45:50.47	15.8

Round 2: Devil


Pos	Name	Nr	Bike Name	Class	Laps
1	Jack Watson	54	Bob	O/J	26
2	Adrian Setter	16	Ratracer	O/P	25
3	Andrew Sidwell	102	Rattysnake Unfaired	O/P/U	24
4	Claire King	25	Kingcycle	O/L	23
5	Joseph Parker	101	HPV Heaven T7	O/St	22
6	Alan Goodman	47	Ratty	O/P	21
7	Paul Goodwin	89	Raptobike	O/P/U	20
8	Sam Relton	127	Crusader	O	19
9	Derek Tweddle	96	Hurrican	O/P/U/St/S	18
10	Richard Everett	65	Windcheater	O/P/Mf/M	17
11	John Lucian	86	Fair Sprint	O/P/Mf/M	16
12	Mike Burrows	0	Q	O/P	15
13	Karl Sparenberg	124	Windy	O/P/Mf/M	14
14	Simon Watson	55	Coppi	O/P/U	13
15	Steve Slade	1	Beano	O	12
16	Fraser Tomsett	46	Molerat	O/P/U	11
17	Andrew Mills	153	Hurricane SL	O/P/U/St/S	10
18	Anne Coulson	61	Kingcycle	O/L	9
19	Fiona Grove	34	Velodynamics T8	O/P/U/L/Lp	8
20	Jon Coulson	62	Toxy	O/P	7
21	Judith Griffiths	116	Smurf	O/P/L/Lp/Mf/M	6
22	Heather Fortnum	104	Mason King	O/P/L/Lp/St/S	5
23	Martin Lucy	83	Catrrike 700	O/P/U/Mf/M	4
24	Mike Hughes	105	ICE B2	O/P/U/St/S	3
25	Katie Sparenberg	76	Windy Too	O/P/U/L/Lp/Mf/M	2
26	Alan Braley	155	Ice Vortex	O/P/U/Mf/M	1

Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 27 May 2013 at 3:06pm

So the combined results for Round 1, fast and slow combined, are:

Pos	Name	Bike Name	Class	Laps	Time	MPH
1	Steve Slade	Beano	O	27	41:42.88	31.3
2	Mike Burrows	Q	O/P	25	42:15.87	28.6
3	Jack Watson	Bob	O/J	25	43:06.19	28
4	Andrew Sidwell	Rattysnake Unfaired	O/P/U	24	43:31.15	26.6
5	Adrian Setter	Ratracer	O/P	23	42:23.86	26.2
6	Sam Relton	Crusader	O	22	43:08.13	24.6
7	Claire King	Kingcycle	O/L	22	43:10.80	24.6
8	Joseph Parker	HPV Heaven T7	O/St	21	42:58.86	23.6
9	Richard Everett	Windcheater	O/P/Mf/M	20	42:55.22	22.5
10	Karl Sparenberg	Windy	O/P/Mf/M	20	42:55.72	22.5
11	Paul Goodwin	Raptobike	O/P/U	20	42:57.73	22.5
12	Simon Watson	Coppi	O/P/U	20	43:02.30	22.4
13	Derek Tweddle	Hurrican	O/P/U/St/S	20	43:15.66	22.3
14	John Lucian	Fair Sprint	O/P/Mf/M	19	43:15.88	21.2
15	Fraser Tomsett	Molerat	O/P/U	19	43:32.57	21.1
16	Andrew Mills	Hurricane SL	O/P/U/St/S	19	43:33.22	21
17	Geoff Bird	HPV Heaven T7	O/St	19	43:58.89	20.8
18	Fiona Grove	Velodynamics T8	O/P/U/L/Lp	18	43:23.38	20
19	Anne Coulson	Kingcycle	O/L	18	44:09.22	19.7
20	Jon Coulson	Toxy	O/P	17	43:50.86	18.7
21	Heather Fortnum	Mason King	O/P/L/Lp/St/S	17	44:22.00	18.5
22	Judith Griffiths	Smurf	O/P/L/Lp/Mf/M	16	43:08.10	17.9
23	Mike Hughes	ICE B2	O/P/U/St/S	16	44:47.82	17.2
24	Katie Sparenberg	Windy Too	O/P/U/L/Lp/Mf/M	15	43:16.00	16.7
25	Alan Braley	Ice Vortex	O/P/U/Mf/M	15	44:15.76	16.3
26	Alan Goodman	Ratty	O/P	14	41:42.88	16.2
27	Martin Lucy	Catrrike 700	O/P/U/Mf/M	15	45:50.47	15.8

Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 27 May 2013 at 3:10pm

...and the overall positions, weighted 70% for Round 1 and 30% for the Devil, are

Pos	Name	Bike Name	Class	MPH	O	P	U	L	Lp	St	S	Mf	M
1	Jack Watson	Bob	O/J	29.6	1
2	Steve Slade	Beano	O	23	2
3	Andrew Sidwell	Rattysnake Unfaired	O/P/U	27.7	3	1	1
4	Adrian Setter	Ratracer	O/P	28.1	4	2
5	Mike Burrows	Q	O/P	23.5	5	3
6	Claire King	Kingcycle	O/L	26.1	6			1
7	Sam Relton	Crusader	O	23.8	7
8	Joseph Parker	HPV Heaven T7	O/St	25	8					1
9	Richard Everett	Windcheater	O/P/Mf/M	21.5	9	4						1	1
10	Paul Goodwin	Raptobike	O/P/U	23.3	10	5	2
11	Karl Sparenberg	Windy	O/P/Mf/M	19.8	11	6						2	2
12	Derek Tweddle	Hurrican	O/P/U/St/S	22	12	7	4			2	1
13	Simon Watson	Coppi	O/P/U	19.2	13	8	3
14	John Lucian	Fair Sprint	O/P/Mf/M	20.3	14	9						3	3
15	Alan Goodman	Ratty	O/P	20.7	15	11
16	Fraser Tomsett	Molerat	O/P/U	17.3	16	10	5
17	Andrew Mills	Hurricane SL	O/P/U/St/S	16.7	17	12	6			3	2
18	Fiona Grove	Velodynamics T8	O/P/U/L/Lp	15	18	13	7	2	1
19	Anne Coulson	Kingcycle	O/L	15.5	19			3
20	Jon Coulson	Toxy	O/P	13.8	20	14
21	Geoff Bird	HPV Heaven T7	O/St	10.9	21					6
22	Heather Fortnum	Mason King	O/P/L/Lp/St/S	12.6	22	15		4	2	4	3
23	Judith Griffiths	Smurf	O/P/L/Lp/Mf/M	12.7	23	16		5	3			4	4
24	Mike Hughes	ICE B2	O/P/U/St/S	10.8	24	17	8			5	4
25	Katie Sparenberg	Windy Too	O/P/U/L/Lp/Mf/M	9.8	25	18	9	6	4			5	5
26	Alan Braley	Ice Vortex	O/P/U/Mf/M	9.1	26	19	11					6	6
27	Martin Lucy	Catrrike 700	O/P/U/Mf/M	10.7	27	20	10					7	7

Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 27 May 2013 at 5:06pm

I've put the Preston results in a separate topic http://forum.bhpc.org.uk/2013-preston_topic4843.html" rel="nofollow - here to avoid a quandary of quibbles for both races here.

Posted By: GeoffBird
Date Posted: 27 May 2013 at 5:11pm

Many thanks for your work Andrew. It looks like the stopwatches are working out okay so far.

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Right Time - Right Place - Wrong Speed

Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 27 May 2013 at 5:22pm

All looks good to me...

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Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 28 May 2013 at 12:36am

video from the short race, filmed from the top of my racekap.

sped it up 1.5x to shorten it (and make it a bit more exciting)

http://youtu.be/fwL-gJALmu4" rel="nofollow - http://youtu.be/fwL-gJALmu4

long race coming at some point (sped up 4x) but it's taking a while to process!

Posted By: Yowie
Date Posted: 28 May 2013 at 3:36am

Jack!

Posted By: fards
Date Posted: 28 May 2013 at 5:09pm

Jack is flying!

Here's the 1hr video, sped up 4x (although I think the last segment might be 5x) openshot was having a bit of a hissy fit, trying to deal with 6 1gb video files, and overlays.

http://youtu.be/sIb2ioWPxjA" rel="nofollow - http://youtu.be/sIb2ioWPxjA

Posted By: Andrew S
Date Posted: 29 May 2013 at 8:54pm

http://www.bhpc.org.uk/Data/Sites/1/archive/events/events13/lancaster-13.html" rel="nofollow - Final results and http://www.bhpc.org.uk/Data/Sites/1/archive/events/events13/tables13.html" rel="nofollow - post-Lancaster Championship tables are now up on the website - go to the race results link for Lancaster on the http://www.bhpc.org.uk/1events.aspx" rel="nofollow - Events page .