Guy Martin/Jason Miles 12/24 record
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Topic: Guy Martin/Jason Miles 12/24 record
Posted By: JDub
Subject: Guy Martin/Jason Miles 12/24 record
Date Posted: 29 October 2014 at 12:22am
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I hope some of you saw Speed with Guy Martin on the 23rd. I thought it was really good TV, even if it was somewhat The Burrows Show. I was invited to be an observer by the WHPVA and ended up gathering the observer team and doing the report, apart from the detailed numbers, for which I am much indepted to Kevin Jenkins.
I have been trying to see if I can get approval of the record from other bodies. The WHPVA routinely accepts IHPVA records. When I asked Bill Gaines at the IHPVA, he told me I should have informed him first. The UMCA https://www.ultracycling.com/" rel="nofollow - https://www.ultracycling.com/ , had the same policy, but were very helpful. If we had informed them, and observed their rules, which I have yet to review, they would have accepted the record.
I spoke to gNick tonight. He tells me our report was the best they have seen. Thanks everyone. ------------- jdub... Got the T-shirt http://protobikes.org.uk/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/150386999@N02/ |
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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 29 October 2014 at 8:21am
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Many thanks Jonathan... It was the best ever exposure for HPVs on mainstream TV as far as I can remember.... For anybody that missed it the show is now available online on 4OD... http://www.channel4.com/programmes/speed-with-guy-martin/4od" rel="nofollow - http://www.channel4.com/programmes/speed-with-guy-martin/4od I'm not at all surprised the report is the best they have seen. I thought you did a great job before, during and after the Goodwood weekend! Many thanks to the other BHPC volunteers (Andy Forey, Neil Fleming and Kevin Jenkins) of course... Response to the show has been very positive - The only exception to that has been a couple of people in the US (mainly Thom Ollinger) who were sneering at us on Facebook before the show even went out... The main thing that came across from their whining was jealousy at the resources that were made available for the attempt. I really wouldn't worry about the IHPVA - being recognised by them wouldn't add any value to the record as far as I'm concerned!! Having it recognised by Ultra Cycling would be cool though I think... BHPC didn't actually get a mention on the show but hopefully general interest in HPVs may have been raised and we may get a knock-on effect from that. Interestingly we've had one enquiry so far on the back of the show... Do you think they wanted detailed information on the drivetrain, moulding process or aerodynamics... or possibly information on the training program that got Guy and Jason into record-braking shape?? No. They wanted to know where they could buy an Eastway/BHPC T-Shirt like the one Mike was wearing. I kid you not...  ------------- |
Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 29 October 2014 at 10:59am
Another good reason to eschew the Mega-Global Walled Garden Corporation of Menlo Park, USAnia... ------------- ==================== a bit ov a lyv wyr by slof standirds |
AlanGoodman wrote:Posted By: KevinJ
Date Posted: 29 October 2014 at 2:13pm
Thanks for getting me involved Jonathan. It was quite something to see the set-up they had there. Let's just say they (the production company) are slightly better organised than the average BHPC setup  And the electronics attached around the bike was pretty amazing as well. We ought to get a details about the bike build and spec and put it on the site (and magazine) - Though I suspect the latter is in plan. Given the weather was dire it was very impressive. What was amazing I thought was the consistency of the riding- generally lapping (before rain) within 5 seconds or so (on a 5 minute lap). It is a bit odd that anyone won't really accept the record since the amount of evidence must be massive (film, witness recording, GPS logs, etc). Difficult to see how it could be much better! ------------- Kevin Jenkins Windcheetah |
Posted By: Karl
Date Posted: 29 October 2014 at 5:22pm
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This is a link to a bootleg copy on youtube for the folk outside the Channel 4 zone of distribution. Don't usual condone this behaviour but I'll make an exception as it positively promotes 'proper' bike :-) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab7W95iVGbE" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab7W95iVGbE Karl
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Posted By: russellbridge
Date Posted: 31 October 2014 at 10:50am
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Is the machine available for BHPC to use? I'm up for a race in it next year if anyone else is... Russ ps great TV by the way...
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Posted By: Karl
Date Posted: 31 October 2014 at 12:19pm
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Get me and you in there Russ and it will accelerate quick enough haha Karl
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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 31 October 2014 at 12:30pm
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It is going on display in the reception of the people who did the moulding but I believe they might make it available if we ask nicely... Don't forget it's single speed so probably not a lot of good at Hog Hill!!! ------------- |
Posted By: Karl
Date Posted: 18 November 2014 at 9:39am
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Just watched the last in the series of the Guy Martin - Speed, Soap Box racer down Mt Ventoux... Why didn't they put wheel covers on? Karl
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Posted By: GeoffBird
Date Posted: 18 November 2014 at 11:00am
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That's what I thought too Karl. No brainer. ------------- Right Time - Right Place - Wrong Speed |
Posted By: Karl
Date Posted: 18 November 2014 at 11:45am
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They pile 20kg of water into the back of the machine to make it go down hill faster(?) but fail to realise it will make it handle like a Porsche (Engine in the back) As a friend who has had several Porsche's once commented, its like trying to throw a hammer round a bend the wrong way.. it will always want to switch ends and the heavy bit go first. Porsche finally overcome this effect with a large computer and sensing when it all got out of hand an applying the brakes to correct corner of the car. Got to admire Ferdinand Porsche "If one does not fail at times, then one has not challenged himself" Took a further 20years for the invention of the transistor to sort the handling of his car out.. thats what I call commitment On the initial tests Guys soap box was tail happy, adding more weight is the last thing it needed IMHO Ah well, its all good Telly and makes a good story :-) |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 18 November 2014 at 12:49pm
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Throwing a dart the wrong way round springs to mind... I didn't have a lot of confidence in the young ladies that were designing/building the machine to be honest... The water bottles didn't even look to be secured, so I assume they were probably moving about... Great television though and Guy Martin was brilliant as always... ------------- |
Posted By: Karl
Date Posted: 18 November 2014 at 1:07pm
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I concur the young ladies left a little to be desired. I did get told to 'shut up' by Mrs S for the running commentary I was giving on what they should be doing.. but in their defence its easier to criticise after the even.. still a good effort. Only trouble is I now have a strong desire for a 3D milling machine and all the pretty machine tools at EPM, to build a composite wonder machine. Dear Santa Please can I have an autoclave for Christmas.. I've been a good boy I think.
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Posted By: GeoffBird
Date Posted: 18 November 2014 at 1:26pm
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To be fair, the machine they designed looked very similar to the 'karties' that Lee Wakefield races with - I'm surprised they weren't involved in the programme actually. They certainly did a better job than the hovercraft designer the week before! We must remember that engineers as talented as the likes of Miles Kingsbury are quite unusual. ------------- Right Time - Right Place - Wrong Speed |
Posted By: Karl
Date Posted: 18 November 2014 at 1:45pm
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Engineer.... The knack.. Watch this you'll love it. http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8vHhgh6oM0" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8vHhgh6oM0 Speaking of the hover craft... HPV water record?? now theres going out on a limb to make a world beater, think of all the fun you can have with hydrofoils.
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Posted By: legs_larry
Date Posted: 18 November 2014 at 2:29pm
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I had That Man Burrows on the phone last night wondering why they didn't use better tyres than Kojaks... ------------- ==================== a bit ov a lyv wyr by slof standirds |
Posted By: Karl
Date Posted: 18 November 2014 at 2:37pm
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Tyres is another point.. why did they only run 70psi?? You'll not get the shot by a sniper sound effect when you get a blow out at 70psi... just fap pss fap pss.
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Posted By: GeoffBird
Date Posted: 18 November 2014 at 4:09pm
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There is already a record for a human powered hydrofoil - about 30 km/h IIRC. They were doing 85 mph around corners - not sure I'd want to do that on Ultremos at 120 psi..
Your link don't work for me Karl. ------------- Right Time - Right Place - Wrong Speed |
Posted By: Neil F
Date Posted: 19 November 2014 at 10:55am
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Geoff try this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8vHhgh6oM0 |
Posted By: russellbridge
Date Posted: 19 November 2014 at 11:13am
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Thats funny :) "Can't he live a normal life?" "No, he'll be an engineer..."
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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 19 November 2014 at 11:23am
Brilliant!!!  ------------- |
Posted By: GeoffBird
Date Posted: 19 November 2014 at 11:39am
 I'll call myself an industrial designer then.......is that any better though?------------- Right Time - Right Place - Wrong Speed |
Posted By: simon
Date Posted: 19 November 2014 at 11:14pm
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Pete was wondering about wheel covers .tyre pressures and unfaired suspension arms and he's only 10 ------------- SIMON |
Posted By: russellbridge
Date Posted: 20 November 2014 at 8:32am
Ah, he obviously has 'the knack'
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Posted By: Yanto
Date Posted: 21 November 2014 at 7:05pm
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One thought that crossed my mind was why was it so tall, with such a high CofG, Guy's arse should literally have been scraping the ground. Or even head first, on his back viewing through a mirror, oh and with rear wheel steering to make it interesting
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Posted By: russellbridge
Date Posted: 26 December 2018 at 11:09am
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Does anyone know what's happened to the tandem bike now? Is it still at the composites company? Can we get it back into use? My twin girls (11) would maybe be up for racing it this year if we can get it out on the track where it belongs... Russ
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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 26 December 2018 at 7:23pm
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Yes it still lives at the composite company as far as I know. We borrowed it for the York Rally a few years ago but I haven't seen it since. Mike would be the best person to ask but I'm not sure it would be ideal for two 11 year olds racing among other vehicles on most of our circuits... It's single speed and the brake is crap! It was really only built to do that one job. It's also HUGE! Needs a long wheelbase van to transport. ------------- |
Posted By: russellbridge
Date Posted: 26 December 2018 at 7:44pm
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Thanks Alan - can you remember what the composites company is called? Russ
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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 26 December 2018 at 7:49pm
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I don't know to be honest - Mike will have the details - He arranged for us to borrow it for the York Rally. ------------- |
Posted By: Yanto
Date Posted: 26 December 2018 at 7:55pm
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Company is; EPM Composites https://epmcomposites.com/guy-martin-tandem-bike/" rel="nofollow - https://epmcomposites.com/guy-martin-tandem-bike/
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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 26 December 2018 at 9:36pm
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