2022 - Round 5/6 - Rhyl, 23/24 July
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Topic: 2022 - Round 5/6 - Rhyl, 23/24 July
Posted By: LeeW
Subject: 2022 - Round 5/6 - Rhyl, 23/24 July
Date Posted: 20 June 2022 at 5:21pm
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Good evening, wondering if anyone knows of a decent campsite we can all stop at, ideally with a pub within walking distance? ------------- Current fleet: Milan SL MK2 #027, Fujin SL II, Beany! |
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Posted By: LeeW
Date Posted: 20 June 2022 at 10:30pm
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Just been doing some googling and found this place: https://goo.gl/maps/6ihqoiHP9FykX9239 Anyone stayed there before? ------------- Current fleet: Milan SL MK2 #027, Fujin SL II, Beany! |
Posted By: LWaB
Date Posted: 02 July 2022 at 10:28am
| I will not be racing because I am doing the Mersey Roads 24 that weekend but the Young Lady may well race at Rhyl. Rough plan is that she stays in a nearby B&B, arriving Friday and heading off Monday. I will be there on Friday and Sunday evenings. Anybody aiming to meet up over the weekend outside of the races themselves? |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 06 July 2022 at 11:29am
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Entries for our next round at Rhyl open on the 7th July for BHPC Members and on the 14th July for Non-members.
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Posted By: ChrisH
Date Posted: 09 July 2022 at 11:14am
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Hello all Can we please have some volunteers to help with organising races at Rhyl. Its much less involved that it was in the old days of hand-held stopwatch timing, which is primarily run and coordinated via the club timelords (Andrew Sidwell and Kim Wall). And most of the race registration activity is now done and dusted online in advance fo the event when folks register through the BHPC shop. Always plenty of people around to help. Organising doesn't prevent you from racing (never has done for me) and you also get first dibs at deciding the race formats. We have track booked for following times on each day. Sat 12-5 Sun 11-4 Any one willing to help (or any questions before deciding) please post on the BHPC forum and/or facebook) Thank You !!!
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Posted By: Kim
Date Posted: 17 July 2022 at 12:06pm
| Do we have any idea of race formats yet? |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 17 July 2022 at 12:35pm
I think Lee is organising - Are you out there Lee? You get to choose the formats as organiser. 🙂 ------------- |
Kim wrote:Posted By: ChrisH
Date Posted: 17 July 2022 at 8:44pm
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Yes Lee proposed formats on Facebook. SAT (track Opens 12:00) 1. 30 mins +1 lap (clockwise) (SLOW race followed by FAST) 2. 30 mins +1 lap (counterclockwise) (SLOW race followed by FAST) SUN (track opens 11:00) 1. 1 lap timetrial (with 1 lap rolling start) 2. 90 min +1 lap (maybe a slow and then a fast race, but maybe all in together, depending on numbers and time available after the timetrials). |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 21 July 2022 at 9:06am
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32 entries for Rhyl - If your name isn't on this list and you think it should be please shout ASAP!! Please note we may still need power at the side of the track so if anyone has a generator please could you bring it along... And don't forget entries for Bath open today! Philip Wilkinson Simon Watson Jack Watson Pete Watson Mark Howard Pat Boulton Kim Wall Colin Wait Rob Womack Ian Pike Russell Bridge Geoff Bird Tim Macdonald Fiona Grove Sherif Harding Geoff Booker Dan Bergonzi Andrew Harrington Judith Swallow David L'Hostis John Lucian Twed Stephen slade Don Shackley Gerry Charlwood David Griffiths Jochen Farwer Gary Wright Andy Forey Andrew Sidwell Lee Wakefield James Ebblewhite ------------- |
Posted By: Kim
Date Posted: 21 July 2022 at 1:35pm
| Andrew S has hired a generator, so that crisis is now averted. |
Posted By: HeatherF
Date Posted: 21 July 2022 at 2:20pm
| But, if anyone has a generator and can bring it that would avoid us driving into Hull on the way and a special trip to take it back on Monday!! |
Posted By: LeeW
Date Posted: 23 July 2022 at 12:00pm
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Sorry for the late notice, but schedule for Saturday rhyl is as follows. 12:45 30 min + 1 lap clockwise slow. 13:30 30 min + 1 lap clockwise fast Lunch break 15:00 30 min + 1 lap counterclockwise slow 15:45 30 min + 1 lap counterclockwise fast ------------- Current fleet: Milan SL MK2 #027, Fujin SL II, Beany! |
Posted By: Kim
Date Posted: 23 July 2022 at 9:52pm
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Results for Saturday's racing are now up at: http://www.bhpc.org.uk/Data/Sites/1/media/events/events22/05rhyl/index.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.bhpc.org.uk/Data/Sites/1/media/events/events22/05rhyl/index.html I'm quite proud of these, particularly the first fast race, where two riders opted to ride without timing tags... Times for the first couple of laps in the second slow race are extrapolated, thanks to a hard-to-reproduce UI glitch in CrossMgr, which helpfully disables the RFID system just after you finish testing it(!) Well done to Natalya for noticing the problem, and Andrew for working out what was going on in a timely manner. And the championship points table has been provisionally updated: http://bhpc.org.uk/Data/Sites/1/media/events/events22/BHPC_2022.html" rel="nofollow - http://bhpc.org.uk/Data/Sites/1/media/events/events22/BHPC_2022.html Back tomorrow for more fun and games...
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Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 23 July 2022 at 11:46pm
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Well done All!! ------------- |
Posted By: Ian pike
Date Posted: 24 July 2022 at 8:26pm
| On the first race on the first day I was fourth I think. The timings have me dropping from two minute laps to four minute laps |
Posted By: Ian pike
Date Posted: 24 July 2022 at 8:31pm
| That would have been third as I lapped Geoff Booker |
Posted By: Kim
Date Posted: 24 July 2022 at 10:16pm
Okay, I found another lap that had been caught by the camera, which was enough data to kick CrossMgr's interpolation of missed reads into doing something sensible. That puts you in fourth place.
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Posted By: Kim
Date Posted: 24 July 2022 at 10:19pm
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Meanwhile, today's times are now up at: http://www.bhpc.org.uk/Data/Sites/1/media/events/events22/06rhyl/index.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.bhpc.org.uk/Data/Sites/1/media/events/events22/06rhyl/index.html ...and I've updated the championship table accordingly (assuming a 20:80 points split between the TT and 90min race): http://bhpc.org.uk/Data/Sites/1/media/events/events22/BHPC_2022.html" rel="nofollow - http://bhpc.org.uk/Data/Sites/1/media/events/events22/BHPC_2022.html
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Posted By: Ian pike
Date Posted: 25 July 2022 at 5:36am
| Many thanks for that. And thanks for a great weekend |
Posted By: Twed
Date Posted: 25 July 2022 at 8:03pm
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Hmmm, here is a challenge for the software. I crashed alongside Lee just before the bell. Was able to remount, but followed Simon Watson across the line under the flag ..... alas without my hood ... (that was removed for exiting) .... which unfortunately had my tag on. So I did finish the race and should be one lap down on Lee. Many lessons learnt there (even for this old dog). ------------- Never believe an atom they make up everything. |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 25 July 2022 at 9:00pm
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Sherif Harding is listed as a DNF but says he did make it over the line after stopping for a few minutes. ------------- |
Posted By: Kim
Date Posted: 25 July 2022 at 9:59pm
Thanks, that makes it easy - we have video of you both crossing the line courtesy of Simon's tag read, so I can get an accurate time for your finish from that.
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Posted By: Kim
Date Posted: 25 July 2022 at 10:36pm
Interesting one, this... Sherif stopped on the far side of the track during his final lap. As I finished the race, I was dispatched to a "problems breathing, take him some ventolin", so dropped everything and went over. Fortunately, it wasn't that serious. Looking at my GPS data, I spent about 15 minutes with him, before feeling he was okay to be left. I returned to the timing tent about 23 minutes after the last finisher had crossed the line, by which point Natalya had - quite reasonably - stopped the timing software and begun to pack up (it was starting to rain), so we have no data for him crossing the line (making him a DNF by default). If I add a final lap time for him based on when I saved the track on my GPS (which is probably a minute or two before he actually reached the finish area), it gives him a 28:50 last lap, and puts him in 23rd place, rather than the 21st place that he gets by being recorded as DNF and getting the slowest finisher's time. On which basis I propose we leave him as DNF. |
Posted By: Kim
Date Posted: 25 July 2022 at 10:49pm
| Results and championship tables now updated to reflect the above change and non-change. |
Posted By: AlanGoodman
Date Posted: 25 July 2022 at 11:16pm
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Thanks Kim! I’ll point Sherif to your reply… ------------- |
Posted By: Kim
Date Posted: 25 July 2022 at 11:44pm
Meanwhile, for everyone's amusement: Not content with causing people to crash on Prostate Cornerâ„¢, I present the wind trying to blow away the table with the timing computer, and knocking over an aerial, causing a couple of subsequent duff reads: |
Posted By: russellbridge
Date Posted: 26 July 2022 at 9:32am
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And almost taking Gerry out, who was going very well all weekend... :) Thanks to all for a great weekends racing in Rhyl. The track was amazing as always, and Lee's race formats worked really well. Apologies for not doing the whole of the 90min race - my legs still aren't 100% used to the 130mm cranks on seventyseven so I decided to use the track time to do two 25min tyre tests instead using the Greenspeed Scorchers and Michelin Blue's ahead of Battle Mountain. Bang-on 200W measured average power for 25mins x 2 resulted in 20.2mph for the Scorcher and 21.7mph for the Blue, which is promising... (rear wheel only)
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Posted By: Kim
Date Posted: 26 July 2022 at 1:03pm
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I was particularly pleased with how smoothly the time trial ran from a timing perspective. By keeping everyone away from the RFID aerials, the system could operate automatically without individual riders having specific start times (which we tried at Preston once, and involved a fair bit of cat-herding to get everyone lined up in the right order), eliminating human error and giving us instant results. Obviously that isn't going to be practical at some tracks, where there's limited space for people to congregate, but I think it's worth doing that way in future where possible. Flying starts make for more exciting speeds, too. I just need more practice coming into the far bend at high speed. I'm sure I'd have gained another second or so if I hadn't chickened out... Natalya did an excellent job making notes and protecting the computer from the elements during the 90 minute race. Apparently she spent a lot of time leaning on the table so it wouldn't blow over... |
Posted By: HeatherF
Date Posted: 26 July 2022 at 4:56pm
| Thanks to Lee for suberb organising and to Simon for exemplary bell ringing and flag waving. Both are stars without whom it wouldn't have happened. |
Posted By: Kim
Date Posted: 26 July 2022 at 10:52pm
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And special thanks to Heather for - amongst other things - going above and beyond the call of duty by fishing a used poo bag out of the undergrowth and adding the assortment of turds littering the access path to its contents. (I suppose the dog-emptiers of Rhyl should be commended for staying off the race track itself, but they really need to up their game when it comes to cleaning up after themselves.)
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Posted By: david.lhostis
Date Posted: 29 October 2022 at 11:45am
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Here is my video for this event: https://youtu.be/Ze53whQGZ8U ------------- http://ccgi.lhostis.plus.com/sport.php" rel="nofollow - http://ccgi.lhostis.plus.com/sport.php Optima baron XLow + M5 Sandwich fairing |
Posted By: Woolly Hat
Date Posted: 31 October 2022 at 7:45am
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Thanks Davide! Really enjoyed your video and commentary and while I agree that a front fairing can be obstructive, mine's adjusted to be no problem at all unless there's a very low trike right in front of me. That Saturday at Rhyl was a great day's racing. ------------- Ross Low Racer 77 and WozzaMarauder |