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    Posted: 18 October 2005 at 12:44pm

I just know this is a silly question but the hell with it ...

When I started coming to races I'd had very little experience of riding recumbent, and I used to worry that I wouldn't have enough wobble room on the grid. Often I'd position myself what seemed a very respectable distance from the flag, only to have all my "personal space" fill up before the off (yes I know, I was taking the official start time too seriously).

Is there any clause in our racing rulebook (which AFAIK hasn't been written yet) forbidding the tactic of starting at the back of the grid with a rolling start, so you're moving before the word go? Or indeed having a "support crew" so that one could start with both feet clipped in?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 October 2005 at 1:11pm

Handbook will be finished soon - I now have a bit more time to do it since the burden of sorting out races is no longer there. Once writted it will be posted up in various ways but the most likely will be a link to a pdf file.

A proper rolling start would be frowned upon when all others are starting from stationary, but we have used general rolling starts at velodromes.
No problem with a support crew so long as they don't block anyone else, no steam catapults though!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 October 2005 at 1:35pm

I understand; I remember with a mixture of amusement and embarassment the disruption Claire caused on the grid in some of her early races by trying to be in a position to tail Fiona, but bungling her start.

Be assured, too, that worrying about wobbling on the grid, and even falling off, is not the unique preserve of the totally inexperienced.  When I made the transition to a Ratracer, after thousands of recumbent miles, I was somewhat fazed by the combination of low centre of gravity (falls over quicker) and the fairly high bottom gear that I'd chosen (so I could have reasonably closely-spaced gears once the launch sequence was completed).  To get the results I wanted to achieve, a good start was essential; if I gave the lead group 5 seconds start, I was stuffed.

In both my case and Claire's the solution was simple; a little bit of practice.  My advice is to find a nice, quiet bit of road and practice starting off, gentle at first and working up to what you'd like to be able to do in a race.  Dedicated practice sessions seem to be much more effective than leaving it to the starting and stopping incidental to normal rides.  It really shouldn't take much time - I recall putting in a couple of sessions of less than 30 minutes each.

I hardly need add that gaining confidence in starting will help you out on the road just as much as on the track.

As for a "support crew", I believe Geoff did start this way on Sunday.  From my limited experience this is actually a more difficult way of getting started, and requires that the support crew knows just as much what they're doing as does the rider.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 October 2005 at 2:30pm

Adrian Wrote: "As for a "support crew", I believe Geoff did start this way on Sunday."

I did indeed - mainly because I didn't want to end up at the back of the pack - It takes ages to fight your way though at Eastway.

To start like this the support crew needs to be just a, well, support, as in a static structure. If they try holding the bike after it is moving then the rider can't balance, with obvious consequences...



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 October 2005 at 3:13pm

I think a mass rolling start was used at Reading as well since the field was quite large and it was felt it was better on safety grounds.  Incidentally, strangley I don't have a problem with shakey starts - maybe my high level of skill (course it could have something to do with 3 wheels)

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 October 2005 at 3:15pm
Those with long memories will no doubt remember 'support people' doing this wrongly to Jon Woolrich at Eastway. My how I cursed when the Lazy Bee fell over right in front of me - mind the anger/adrenaline ended up making me have quite a good race IIRC
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 October 2005 at 4:11pm

Thanks for your informative and entertaining answers, folks. Actually I wasn't asking for me, it's for a friend  ! I was thinking that a "beginner's guide" to racing might be a good article for the newsletter and I suggested this to Dave L back at my first race (Thruxton 04). Dave quite rightly suggested straight back that I should write one, and now that I have a little more experience I thought I'd give it a go. It would principally be about race etiquette, not so much about training or equipment. If anybody has any ideas about what I should or shouldn't say, please fire away - I'm 100% lugholes.

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