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I've just sent Mark an email, I was chatting to him late last year about his machines, told him about the interest on here.

I've given him your mail address Alan incase he can't see the forum.

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Thanks Karl,
As of this morning Mark is a BHPC member... Big smile
 
 

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Originally posted by GeoffBird GeoffBird wrote:

Oh, that's my fault Embarrassed - Derrick was complaining about his name being spelt wrong and there being no 'e' on the end of Hurrican, so I said, don't worry, it's all referenced to the race number (or so I'd been told), not the name, so I'll change it. I was only trying to be helpful...
OK changed it to Derrick for all the events this year and updated it
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Originally posted by GeoffBird GeoffBird wrote:

Ah, that's my fault Embarrassed - Derrick was complaining about his name being spelt wrong and there being no 'e' on the end of Hurrican,

Psst....I wasn't complaining......it has been like that for many seasons....it just came out as someone else had noticed it.

If I was to complain, then it might be that Mark Chillery's bike is very unusual in that it converts from a high position to a low rider position. I would question its class of ST and SP. I know this as Leo & I followed him around a good head+ above him .....and I rode the bike.
Also I am happy to be corrected ....but was Diego on the flux in race 2? ....if it was then it was very low & long.
I realise I may be too late with this ....but just managed to find time to read stuff. Cest la vie.
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Ah....thanks for the corrections Kevin ....I wasn't that fussed as the longevity of it shows .....but it looks neater now
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Originally posted by Twed Twed wrote:



If I was to complain, then it might be that Mark Chillery's bike is very unusual .
 
An unusual bike at a BHPC event???
 
Oh no... Big smileBig smileBig smile
 
I guess this should be referred to the Competition Secretary...
 
The seat height rule was removed from Sports Class a while back though and Mark does ride the machine on the road I believe...
 

 

Two further classes serve to provide an entry-level competition for riders who do not (yet) posess an out-and-out racing machine, and to promote the development of road-going machines with fairings. These classes do not have strict technical specifications. Eligibility will be determined principally by the competitors or, if arbitration is required by the Competition Secretary

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This class is for unfaired bicycles that are suitable for use on the open road. Tail boxes are permitted, if they are practical luggage-carriers. Typical examples include: Kingcycle (without nose cone), Challenge Hurricane, Challenge Mistral, Burrows Ratcatcher.
 
 
    

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Also for bicycles suitable for use on the open road, but front and tail fairings are allowed (side fairings and "bags" are not considered suitable for road use and are disallowed). Examples: Kingcycle with nosecone, Challenge Mistral with Zzipper fairing, Geoff Bird T7. Sports-class bikes are also eligible for Street.

 
 

 

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I guess a varying seat height may test race classification logic but one objective of the Switchblade design was to make it easy to ride on the road.  Even if seat height influences the Class of the bike, which seat height is relevant? Perhaps the default (high) position; or perhaps the one used on the track the most, which is of course, the lower position: interesting. 

I noticed that Alan's bike is considered a race machine whereas Diego's (in the second race) was not, even though they both seemed like definitive race machines. It’s not the tail fairing that makes Alan's a race machine, is it? Irrespective of what class my bike is deemed to be, I would like to understand that distinction.

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Jeff,

currently 20" wheels front and back. It’s based on compact low racer format (I think that's what they call them) although most of these now seem to go for a larger rear wheel. I anticipate 24" front, 26 or 700c back for next version.  Front wheel drive is slightly more manageable with a higher seat so that will probably stay.  I’m only just starting to think about a route to production. Perhaps first step is establishing if there is a market: there might be!
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Originally posted by markchillery markchillery wrote:


I noticed that Alan's bike is considered a race machine whereas Diego's (in the second race) was not, even though they both seemed like definitive race machines. It’s not the tail fairing that makes Alan's a race machine, is it? Irrespective of what class my bike is deemed to be, I would like to understand that distinction.

Hope to see you all again soon.

 
Diego switched bikes between the two races... Only the bike he used in the first race was a "Sports Class" machine...
 
He shouldn't really have been in Sports or Street overall to be honest as you get points for only the highest class of machine you use on the day...
 
My opinion is that your machine is fine in Sports as it fits into the spirit of the class perfectly...
 
My Ratracer is very much a race bike with very little steering lock, although there are people who regularly ride them on the road and even tour on them!!
 
Not me though... I mostly ride a Kingcycle on the road...
 


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