2014 Gravesend, 27th July

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   Many thanks John .

As Competition Sec I suppose I am Organiser of Last Resort, otherwise the events that I've booked don't take place and there is no Competition to be Sec of.

While this doesn't mean I'm happy to organise more than my fair share of events (one or two a year) I will help to train others how to do it, with the aim of increasing the pool of organisers for the future.

In this spirit I will supervise Gravesend and help John, and anyone else who wants to, organise the event. There is still time, right up to Sunday morning, for someone else to do it - just say the word.

Since it is in the gift of the Organiser to decide on the programme of races this probably won't be announced until the day. All you know is that racing will start at around 11:00am and there will be 2-3 races each of varying lengths.

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Andrew S Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 14 March 2005 Location: Hornsea, UK Status: Offline Points: 2433	Post Options Post Reply Quote Andrew S Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 July 2014 at 10:20am
	Many thanks John . As Competition Sec I suppose I am Organiser of Last Resort, otherwise the events that I've booked don't take place and there is no Competition to be Sec of. While this doesn't mean I'm happy to organise more than my fair share of events (one or two a year) I will help to train others how to do it, with the aim of increasing the pool of organisers for the future. In this spirit I will supervise Gravesend and help John, and anyone else who wants to, organise the event. There is still time, right up to Sunday morning, for someone else to do it - just say the word. Since it is in the gift of the Organiser to decide on the programme of races this probably won't be announced until the day. All you know is that racing will start at around 11:00am and there will be 2-3 races each of varying lengths.

johnlucian Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List BHPC Member Joined: 04 July 2010 Location: Nottingham Status: Offline Points: 111	Post Options Post Reply Quote johnlucian Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 July 2014 at 10:36pm
	I am not sure that you will agree with this, but I would propose that people who come on Saturday to Fowlmead and know they are coming to Gravesend on Sunday, sign on also for the Gravesend race on Saturday. We can prepare a separate sign on sheets and people can pay as well.
	John Lucian

GeoffBird Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List BHPC Member Joined: 20 September 2005 Status: Offline Points: 2396	Post Options Post Reply Quote GeoffBird Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 July 2014 at 10:57pm
	I think the issue will be having the spreadsheet - As I understand it, they need to be created in sequence as the points tables accumulate, but I suppose it wouldn't stop you taking the money and getting the sign on sheets filled in. By the way Andrew, where can I get the latest pre-filled-in sign on sheets, or even a blank one as a MS document/pdf?
	Right Time - Right Place - Wrong Speed

Andrew S Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 14 March 2005 Location: Hornsea, UK Status: Offline Points: 2433	Post Options Post Reply Quote Andrew S Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 July 2014 at 10:42am
	I've sent you a PM, Geoff. Signing-on for the weekend sounds like a good time-saver but you would still need to make sure people were entered correctly in the sign-on program. As Geoff says, the program is cumulative so the sign-on for Gravesend can't be done until the results from Fowlmead are entered. In fact, the list of racers isn't actually deleted when a new race is set up, so the sign-on for Gravesend initially has all the racers from Fowlmead in it. However if you think of all missing people, extra people, changes to bikes, classes, etc it's much more reliable to start with a clean sheet and enter people in afresh. As you know from the post-race quibbling, it's important to get racer's details right, and it's much easier to do this is at sign-on rather than sort out the mess afterwards.

AlanGoodman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Club Chairman Joined: 04 March 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 8036	Post Options Post Reply Quote AlanGoodman Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 25 July 2014 at 7:34pm
	I definitely won't be at Fowlmead due to work and a bit of a miscalculation... Speedie's new 451 front wheels are going to need the frame re-positioning in the shell and its currently looking like the new position will mean I can't turn the pedals... To quote Mr H. Simpson of the Parish of Springfield... "D'oh" Still not sure about Gravesend yet... Would be really nice to see the new track. Have fun folks!!


legs_larry Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List BHPC Member Joined: 09 March 2005 Location: London Town Devine Status: Offline Points: 1554	Post Options Post Reply Quote legs_larry Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 27 July 2014 at 7:38pm
	Posted some photos on flickr: clicky
	==================== a bit ov a lyv wyr by slof standirds

Andrew S Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 14 March 2005 Location: Hornsea, UK Status: Offline Points: 2433	Post Options Post Reply Quote Andrew S Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 July 2014 at 9:50am
	Results for Gravesend will be posted this evening. My apologies for the interminable delay but it's a long way home from Kent it was the final stage of Le Tour (la grande arrivée?) on TV I'm an idle waster However to keep you occupied, here's a quiz: What was the length of the circuit we used for the time-trial circuit? What was the length of the circuit we used for the main race? My cycle comp wasn't working because I was using a spare wheel and I forgot to ask anyone else to measure the tracks. Cyclopark give nominal lengths for some of the possible circuits but don't say what they are.

Andrew S Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 14 March 2005 Location: Hornsea, UK Status: Offline Points: 2433	Post Options Post Reply Quote Andrew S Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 July 2014 at 9:55am
	I almost forgot: many thanks to John Lucian and Neil Fleming for stepping in and organising splendidly. As a new track there were a lot of unknowns that had to be sorted out on the fly and they did brilliantly to make it a great day.

GeoffBird Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List BHPC Member Joined: 20 September 2005 Status: Offline Points: 2396	Post Options Post Reply Quote GeoffBird Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 July 2014 at 10:52am
	Yes, many thanks to John and Neil for a well-organised event. The new track was a sobering reminder that recumbents aren't so fast when ridden by old men up loooong hills! Nice photos Dave. I guess you would have taken more of the slow race if I hadn't press-ganged you into timing me instead.
	Right Time - Right Place - Wrong Speed

Neil F Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Visitor (moderated) Joined: 09 March 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 449	Post Options Post Reply Quote Neil F Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 July 2014 at 1:19pm
	Andrew, Time Trial course is 1.15km according to Cyclopark's website.