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2021 Rounds 2 and 3: Preston, 5th and 6th June
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Have we decided how we're weighting the points for Saturday?  20:80 33:66 or something?
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20:80 sounds reasonable to me

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Right, an innovation:  We're going to try running Saturday's time trial like a proper grown-up cycling club so that we can use the RFID tag system for timing.  This means that the computer will count people down to their pre-determined start time, and record their finish automatically using the tags.

As such, riders are responsible for being at the start line in time for their pre-determined start time.  If you're not there, the clock starts without you.  To make things simpler, I've allocated start times at 45 second intervals in ascending order of race number (with one exception, so that Andrew and I aren't riding at the same time), so it should make things easier to queue up in the right order.

Times here are stopwatch times in minutes and seconds, not the time of day.  We aim to start at 1:30PM, but may start a few minutes later if necessary.  The stopwatch time should be displayed on the race clock throughout the time trail.  

Race#NameStart Time
1Steve Slade00:01:00
6Ian Perry00:01:45
7Neil Fleming00:02:30
18David L'Hostis00:03:15
20Neil Hood00:04:00
26Pete Watson00:04:45
36Liam Goodman00:05:30
38Colin Rose00:06:15
47Alan Goodman00:07:00
48Maureen Goodman00:07:45
54Jack Watson00:08:30
66Jochen Farwer00:09:15
68GST00:10:00
77Colin Wait00:10:45
82Jonathan Woolrich00:11:30
86John Lucian00:12:15
92Shaun Pallister00:13:00
96Derrick Tweddle00:13:45
99Dave Minter00:14:30
102Andrew Sidwell00:15:15
104Heather Fortnum00:16:00
127William Tulett00:16:45
132Jeffrey James00:17:30
137Gerry Chaarlwood00:18:15
149John Williams00:19:00
150Ian Squires00:19:45
163John Greed00:20:30
165Tim Macdonald00:21:15
168James Coxton00:22:00
183Sonja Wittig00:22:45
204Alex Pratt00:23:30
211Don Shackley00:24:15
220Bob Wood00:25:00
221Zac00:25:45
222Paul Markey00:26:30
223Erin Fleming00:27:15
136Kim Wall00:28:00

A copy of these times will be available along with the fast/slow race allocations.

(If it all goes horribly wrong we'll fall back to the manual method, but if this works it should make things run a lot more smoothly, as the computer's much better at coping with riders arriving in quick succession than a person with a stopwatch.)




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Do the RFID tags have a minimum distance between each other? I'm toying with having a small plastic "flag" with a tag either side, so separated by 0.5mm, or will one tag on one side of the tag be sufficient?
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Yes, they don't work when they're on top of each other, in much the same way they don't work on metal/carbon fibre.  A single tag should be sufficient in those circumstances (the plastic's completely transparent to radio, and they work fine from 'behind'), but if you're going to use two I'd suggest one at the top of the flag and one at the bottom.

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Thanks Kim, when I say "flag" I mean something just slightly larger than a tag, so I think I'll try just one tag option and see what happens.

Ian


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with the later start is registration later than the normal 10-11am
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Right ,just got an email from Chris 12.30 registration 1.30 start
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Results are up, but something appears to have gone a bit wrong with the points (Slash isn't placed for Sunday's event).  I'm far too tired to wrangle data without making things worse so it will have to wait.

ETA: It appears that Slash was so fast he lapped himself and finished in 0th position, which confused the scoring software.  Smile

Obviously we've found a bug in the results-merging program.  Will look at it tomorrow.

ETA: I looked at it.  It's a failure to initialise a variable problem.  Will fix tomorrow.


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The results for Saturday's races are now on the BHPC website here:
and the results for Sunday are here:
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