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    Posted: 04 October 2010 at 1:38pm

With nobody else putting themselves up for the job, I'm assuming that following the AGM I will be the person tasked with putting the BHPC race calendar for 2011 together.  Hence this post to get any feedback from the racing (and potentially racing) membership about what you'd like to see.  Below are a few current thoughts, in no particular order.  Please feel free to comment on these points, or on absolutely anything else you'd like - or anything this year that you didn't.

  • The basic shape of the season has worked well for several years, so I intend to follow a similar pattern, with 12 days of racing, of which the best 8 results would count
  • Though we got some good coverage - but mostly to do with some stonking "Hot Laps" rather than our own race - the Brands Hatch (Bike Radar Live) experiment didn't work well as a BHPC race.  Neither I nor Mike Burrows (I'd like to thank him again for all the effort to make the event happen) would propose repeating it
  • I'll aim to include the two established weekend events: Lancaster/Preston and the two-dayer at Fowlmead.  What would people think to a third one?  The new circuit at Stourport looks a must-try and others have already suggested a weekend event combining that and another midlands venue, such as Shrewsbury.  Another suggested - but untried by us - track is in Solihull.  For me, weekend events reduce travelling and free another weekend for other stuff.  For others, maybe those with families, weekend events are difficult.  How do they suit the membership in general?
  • Fees at Castle Combe have risen steeply over recent years, and it may well be unaffordable.  I have a great deal of trouble getting dates there too.  I still want to put on one longer race (say 2 hours).  The best candidate venue for that seems to be Fowlmead, probably the second day there.
  • There may be a possibility of a town-centre criterium event - on similar lines to those some of you have attended in Jersey.  The courses are often not suited to streamliners or to the more extreme unfaired/part-faired bikes.  Would you be up for it?
  • How many velodrome events?  I'd go for one: they're fairly expensive, and I find them a bit dull, but it's variety and allows people to have a go at record-setting
  • Given that Hillingdon now looks suitable for an AGM, we don't have to go back to Hog Hill.  Would you miss the hill or be glad never to see it again?  If we omit it, I'll aim for the replacement to be in the South East; Reading?
  • I'll try to make some events on Saturdays, but then I did this year too.  The predominance of Sunday events is mostly down to the availability of venues.
  • Where I know or can find out about other events (BPCC, CylceVision, Worlds), I'll do my very best to avoid clashes, but sometimes they're unavoidable, or dates are announced after ours are confirmed
  • It has been suggested that the AGM meeting be a "just for fun" event.  Apparently - but before my racing days - this was how it was.  A good idea, or would it just mean that you wouldn't attend the AGM?

All constructive comments welcome.



Edited by Adrian Setter - 04 October 2010 at 1:42pm
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All sounds good to me Adrian... Solihull worked very well for the pedal car race there this year.
Reading is ok or Welwyn may be an alternative (and steeper) velodrome?
I very much doubt we'd get many people turn up to an AGM that wasn't on a race day. The only time we tried it before (at York) it meant a lot of work for some of us for a meeting that ended up not being quorate, so we had to do it all again... So I'd keep the AGM as it is, although I'd like to see it followed by a social gathering of some sort to end the season...
 
I'd also like to do something in the closed season (maybe an indoor velodrome if there is enough interest) but maybe that should be up to somebody other than the competition secretary to sort out!
 
It would be good if all the pedal car races could be avoided, but especially the 24 hour race (June 25th - 26th 2011) as most pedal car teams need to drag in a couple of extra drivers for that one and some of us were struggling this year... Dead
 
 
 
 

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Originally posted by AlanGoodman AlanGoodman wrote:

It would be good if all the pedal car races could be avoided, but especially the 24 hour race (June 25th - 26th 2011) as most pedal car teams need to drag in a couple of extra drivers for that one and some of us were struggling this year... Dead
 
Yes, and the clash we had this year didn't help the turnout at our event at Sbunthorpe, so avoiding a clash is a win-win
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Originally posted by AlanGoodman AlanGoodman wrote:

I'd also like to do something in the closed season (maybe an indoor velodrome if there is enough interest) but maybe that should be up to somebody other than the competition secretary to sort out!
 
I have looked into indoor velodromes for events early in the season.  Obstacles are that, at least for during the day at a weekend, you have to book a very long way in advance, and they're expensive.  Either or both may improve once the London velodrome is available for more general use (presumably not till after the Olympics) and once the UCI's Brit-scuppering rules have made GB look like (relative) failures at London 2012, with a consequent wane in interest in track cycling.
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I'd be sorry to see the loss of Castle Combe - I enjoy having the space of a well surfaced motor racing circuit to throw the machine around. That back straight at Darley Moor tends to be too rough to really enjoy riding there - that circuit could be so nice if they just gave it a bit of a tidy back there. Thruxton and Goodwood were good but seem to remember they were also silly money for sole use too.

I'm not a fan of venues that involve the M25. Hillingdon is a good enough circuit to manage (even twice in a season) but couldn't be bothered with Brands Hatch or Fowlmead. Too much a risk of ending up sat in traffic rather than getting to the venue, or getting home at a sensible time.

Weekend events work well.

Town centre crit sounds like a waste of time for a points race. With full-on support like in Freidrichshaven it was good racing but compromised by street furniture being in the way and requiring lots of fencing and marshalling.. I'd be surprised to find that level of support more locally - tho assume from your suggestion that we have an invite?

Having said don't like the M25, throwing in a random out-of-the-way track like the Welsh one that was suggested does give the opportunity for a weekend away doing 'touristy stuff' on the Saturday, racing on the Sunday. But not in the south east...

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I was at Blenheim bike day on Sunday which included the Brompton World Championships. There was a TT, a sportive, upright trikes and a family fun ride as well as the Bromptons. Great venue and atmosphere - perhaps they might be interested in a BHPC event for 2011, making this the replacement for the Bike Radar Live event?
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Originally posted by Adrian Setter Adrian Setter wrote:

 

  • Given that Hillingdon now looks suitable for an AGM, we don't have to go back to Hog Hill.  Would you miss the hill or be glad never to see it again?  If we omit it, I'll aim for the replacement to be in the South East; Reading?

All constructive comments welcome.

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It all sounds fine to me and I, along with many others in the silent majority, have appreciated your work this year.
 
With regard to AGM 's the clubhouse at Stourport was also eminently suitable.
 
Town Centre crits - yes please but then I'm travelling alot slower than the streamliners so can enjoy them.
 
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as a family type weekends are not so good........
to many in the SE again are also a put off.
 
I enjoy the 2hr, but not sure I'd like to see it on a double weekend with perhaps the longest drive ie fowlmead.
 
 
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Originally posted by Adrian Setter Adrian Setter wrote:

  • The basic shape of the season has worked well for several years, so I intend to follow a similar pattern, with 12 days of racing, of which the best 8 results would count
Great, I agree.
Originally posted by Adrian Setter Adrian Setter wrote:

  • I'll aim to include the two established weekend events: Lancaster/Preston and the two-dayer at Fowlmead.  What would people think to a third one?
  • Not easy for me, the family are a bit too young to come to the races yet (and enjoy it)
    Originally posted by Adrian Setter Adrian Setter wrote:

  • The new circuit at Stourport [on-Severn?] looks a must-try
  • Yeah, I'd be up for that, but not as a weekend double.
    Originally posted by Adrian Setter Adrian Setter wrote:

    ...Another suggested - but untried by us - track is in Solihull.
    Also withing spitting distance.
    Originally posted by Adrian Setter Adrian Setter wrote:

  • Fees at Castle Combe have risen steeply over recent years, and it may well be unaffordable
  • I would still like a 2-hour race in the calendar
    Originally posted by Adrian Setter Adrian Setter wrote:

  • There may be a possibility of a town-centre criterium event
  • A great leveller!  I had a good one on the B1, so why not?
    Originally posted by Adrian Setter Adrian Setter wrote:

  • How many velodrome events?
  • I would really like us to go to Newport again, a world class indoor track.
    Originally posted by Adrian Setter Adrian Setter wrote:

  • Would you miss the hill or be glad never to see it again?
  • bye-bye hill.
    Originally posted by Adrian Setter Adrian Setter wrote:

  • It has been suggested that the AGM meeting be a "just for fun" event.
  • you wouldn't get me there for "fun", sorry.
    Originally posted by <span id=userPro41030 =showDropDown'userPro41030', 'proMenu41030', 160, 0; =msgSidePro title=View Drop Down>rwa.martin</span> rwa.martin wrote:


    I was at Blenheim bike day on Sunday which included the Brompton World Championships... Great venue and atmosphere - perhaps they might be interested in a BHPC event for 2011
    Good idea!  Worth a call to find out.
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