First race of the season!

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Hello Sam, was good to see you and Wilma! 
It will also be good to see you at CC, that was my first race 3yrs ago!  Don't let CC put you off racing, I say that because it might rain, and it might be windy, and you might get fed up, best thing is try to stay with somebody to give the race a bit of "spice"! Big circuits can be lonely as we become spread out!

Ian

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Yanto Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 11 July 2005 Status: Offline Points: 1521	Post Options Post Reply Quote Yanto Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 09 April 2012 at 8:04pm
	Hello Sam, was good to see you and Wilma! It will also be good to see you at CC, that was my first race 3yrs ago! Don't let CC put you off racing, I say that because it might rain, and it might be windy, and you might get fed up, best thing is try to stay with somebody to give the race a bit of "spice"! Big circuits can be lonely as we become spread out! Ian

sam knight Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List BHPC Member Joined: 09 April 2012 Status: Offline Points: 68	Post Options Post Reply Quote sam knight Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 April 2012 at 7:18am
	Thanks for the welcome guys....and thanks for the advice regarding trying to stick with someone on the big circuit..will do my best...I am expecting the first few races to hurt....So far my training consists of riding up Kop hill (site of the famous car hill climb) 7 minutes 30 secs up....and then scaring myself silly on the descent (55 seconds) See you all soon!

AlanGoodman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Club Chairman Joined: 04 March 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 8036	Post Options Post Reply Quote AlanGoodman Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 April 2012 at 7:33am
	Oh No!!! You obviously didn't read BHPC Rule number 1 Sam... Using the word "Tr&ning" is punishable by having to recite the instructions for the timing system 100 times backwards in Chinese. Around here "Training*" is what Dave Tigwell does to get to races... He puts his bike on a train and then sits down with a Pasty.... I tend to agree with Ian about Castle Coombe.... but it is a LOT better if it's run the "wrong" way round... That way the chicane (downhill) gives us ...er... less fast riders something to look forward to every 10 minutes or so... Usualy practice is to find the organiser and shout "Anticlockwise" until he says that's what he was going to do anyway... By the way, do we have an organiser for Castle Coombe yet??


blogwat Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List BHPC Member Joined: 30 January 2010 Location: nottingham Status: Offline Points: 661	Post Options Post Reply Quote blogwat Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 April 2012 at 8:41am
	Hi Sam welcome to the club and hope you enjoy the racing try if you can get to the world champioships at fowlmead it will be a great experience , I will probably catch up with you sometime in the season and when I race again you wont be at the back . good luck Jeff.
	when your up to your waist in aligators they forget to tell you you've got to clear the swamp

KevinJ Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Committee Joined: 04 March 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1079	Post Options Post Reply Quote KevinJ Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 April 2012 at 8:21am
	Posted the results in a more obscure way - the results are linked from the Events page directly - normal service will be resumed as soon as possible
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liggertoy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List BHPC Member Joined: 16 August 2011 Location: belgium Status: Offline Points: 13	Post Options Post Reply Quote liggertoy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 April 2012 at 7:46pm
	We had a nice day on the racetrack in Hillingdon. My wife has a few pictures taken at this site you can find them http://sports.webshots.com/album/582631365rrJXHu?vhost=sports Rudi Edited by liggertoy - 11 April 2012 at 7:47pm

KeithD Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List BHPC Member Joined: 09 May 2006 Location: Jersey Status: Offline Points: 625	Post Options Post Reply Quote KeithD Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 14 April 2012 at 11:19pm
	The results are finally up is the usual place: http://www.bhpc.org.uk/2012-race-results.aspx Well done to the winners: Steve Slade Open Claire King Ladies Sarah Tweddle Junior Erik Marynissen Partly-Faired & UnFaired (and Street & Sports) Fiona Grove Ladies Part Faired Rob Hague Faired Multitrack John Lucian Multitrack and a big thanks to those who helped out - especially: Kevin for sign-on and processing the results Fiona for taking the membership Heather and Andrew for setting up the video Fiona and Heather for patching up and being Master Lap Counters Gary, John, Rob for marshaling Derrick for running the faster races, so I could take part. and everyone else who helped out on the line and with the lap counting. See you all at Castle Coombe!

Yanto Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Moderator Group Joined: 11 July 2005 Status: Offline Points: 1521	Post Options Post Reply Quote Yanto Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 April 2012 at 7:27am
	Hi Keith, i'm asking this in public rather as a PM as other people may be interested in the way points are calculated. I was awarded 148 points yet i was 7th in classs (ok last in class), but shouldn't 7th place get more points? I feel this may be crucial come Hillingdon 2 !!! Cheers

AlanGoodman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Club Chairman Joined: 04 March 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 8036	Post Options Post Reply Quote AlanGoodman Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 April 2012 at 7:48am
	Well done to all involved! Is a Challenge Jester really Sports Class?? If so that's the end of Sports Class (entry level...) I think.


KeithD Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List BHPC Member Joined: 09 May 2006 Location: Jersey Status: Offline Points: 625	Post Options Post Reply Quote KeithD Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 April 2012 at 8:57am
	Hmmm, 148 points does seem to be a bit mean for a day's overall placing of 7th in the Multi-track Faired class! But he didn't get 148 points for being seventh - he was seventh because he got 148 points. A day's points are points are calculated on the placing in each race, and added together based on the point allocation for each race. In this case it was 1:3, or the points awarded in the first race made up 25% of the final score, and the points awarded in the second race made up 75% of the final score. In Ian's case the points awarded reflect that, unfortunately, he had a perfect storm of bad luck: >Only took part in one race, >This race only constituted 25% of the overall score >He (I gather through no fault of his own) did not finish this race. For those who are not aware, for each class in race the points awarded are 1000 for first place and for everyone else, 90% of the points awarded to the rider in front, ie: 1st: 1000 2nd: 900 3rd: 810 4th: 729 5th: 656 6th: 590 : The non-linearness ensures that a higher placing within a race carries more weight than consistency - eg a first and third is better than two second placings. Consistency is awarded by taking part in more races, which brings us back to Ian's example. In his first race (20min+1 lap faster) he was 4th rider in Mf class. The other race in the same round (the slower one) had 2 riders who were ahead of him (ie had a higher mph). This put him into 6th place in the Mf class in the first round, so giving him 590 points. He did not take part in the longer race, so did not gain any points for this. So his final score for the day in the Mf class is: 590.49 * 25% + 0 * 75% = 147.6, rounded to 148. Simples! Edited by KeithD - 15 April 2012 at 12:15pm